Eugene's examples are all pretty powerful. They also demonstrate the arguably very weak utility of limited public forum doctrine for protecting freedom of association. Cases like Widmar and Good News Club are distinguishable because the Court has made it clear that limited public forum parameters cannot be viewpoint discriminatory. There is no Supreme Court case law (at least to my recollection) that prohibits the creation of a limited public forum that restricts access in a way that limits associational freedom.
I think that an all purpose, completely open, designated public forum should be treated just like a traditional public forum. I would argue that this rule would prohibit conditioning access on a group's waiving its associational freedom rights. But once we are in the world of limited public forums, the issue becomes much more complicated. We have a constitutional framework for reviewing viewpoint discriminatory, content discriminatory, and content neutral restrictions on access to a limited public forum. But what is the framework for reviewing a limited public forum that is defined in a way that burdens associational freedom? Is the freedom to determine the voting members of an organization more important than the freedom to express one's views on a particular subject. Content discriminatory regulations restrcting speech in a limited public forum are upheld under very deferential review. It may very well be that a limited public forum that controls access through restrictions on associational freedom is of far less value to expressive groups than a more open forum. But state institutions are permitted to create limited public forums that are only of marginal use to speakers, just as they are permitted not to create a limited public forum in the first place. What state institutions cannot do is to eggregiously distort public debate -- hence the prohibition against viewpoint discrimination. The best argument for CLS is that restrictions on the right of groups to determine their voting members distort debate as opposed to weakening debate. Alan Brownstein ________________________________________ From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:53 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Factual Clarification re CLS Rick Duncan writes: "Consider this alternative description: Hastings is attempting to create a designated limited public forum for all student groups that are willing to waive their right to expressive association by being open to include all comers as members, including those who would detract from the group's expressive purposes.... Why is this condition on expressive association not an unconstitutional condition?" I think the answer is that it's just a constitutionally permissible decision not to subsidy constitutionally protected activity. Consider some examples: A state is attempting to subsidize a wide range of medical care, but not for abortions. If you want an abortion, get it with your own money. Constitutional. A state is allowing a wide range of medical care in its hospitals, but not abortions. If you want an abortion, get it on your private property. Constitutional. A state is attempting to subsidize public education, but not private education. If you want private education, get it with your own money. Constitutional. The federal government is attempting to create a designated public forum -- a subsidy administered through 501(c)(3) tax deductions for charitable contributions -- for pretty much all nonprofit speakers, but only those who don't use tax-exempt money for constitutionally protected electioneering, even though this detracts from the group's expressive purpose. If you want to electioneer, do it with unsubsidized funds. Constitutional. A university is attempting to create a designated public forum for all student groups that are run by students, but not those who exercise their right to expressive association by being run chiefly by outsiders, even when their expressive purpose would be better served by being run by outsiders (e.g., if the group belongs to an ideological movement that stresses central control by a church, or operation by the community or some subset of the community rather than by students). If you want to associate in a way that is run by outsiders, do it with your own money and your own property. Constitutional, right? A university is attempting to create a designated public forum for all student groups that organize themselves democratically, but not those who exercise their right to expressive association by organizing themselves in a way in which the group is dominated by one student leader, even when their expressive purpose would be better served by being run nondemocratically. If you want to associate in a way that isn't democratic, do it with your own money and your own property. Constitutional, right? A university is attempting to create a designated public forum for all student groups that decline to discriminate in officers and members based on race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, etc., but not those who exercise their right to expressive association by so discriminating, even when their expressive purpose would be better served by discriminating. If you want to associate in a way that discriminates, do it with your own money and your own property. Why wouldn't this be equally constitutional? Eugene _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. 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