Hastings' Outlaw's constitution said officers could be removed for not 
supporting its mission, if I remember correctly. Hastings did not require it to 
amend its constitution.
 
In any event, I think those who argue that an all comers rule is OK because 
takeovers are unlikely would in effect be relying on a pattern or practice of 
groups choosing leaders based on their views. Usually a pattern or practice is 
somewhat equivalent to a rule, where antidiscrimination principles are at 
stake. Thus in a sense CLS is being denied benefits in part because of its 
honesty in admitting what its members will do, and the all comers rule is 
supported because groups will in fact engage in discrimination, though perhaps 
not by way of formal rules.
 
Mark Scarberry
Pepperdine

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From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Steven Jamar
Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 6:06 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: A real-life on-campus example


1.  What evidence is there that Outlaw excludes those who don't support its 
positions?

2.  Asssuming there is such evidence, once again Rick is refusing to recognize 
that associational rights, expressive rights, and religious rights are not all 
one thing governed by a single, unified or coherent set of principles.

If one takes Rick's point seriously, then there is no establishment clause  
(other than coercion) or free exercise accommodations allowed because every 
accommodation for a religious group would be "viewpoint" based.

Steve



On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Rick Duncan <nebraskalawp...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Alan, CLS is not discriminating against protected groups qua groups.

CLS wishes to organize around a set of beliefs and to exclude from membership 
those who don't subscribe to those beliefs. This is what expressive association 
is designed to protect.

When Hastings requires CLS to admit members who don't share its beliefs about 
the divinity of Christ or the good of human sexuality, it prevents CLS from 
effectively expressing those viewpoints as a group. At the same time, other 
student groups are allowed to exclude members who don't subscribe to the 
beliefs of these other groups. Thus, Outlaw can exclude those who don't support 
its beliefs about gay sexual equality, but CLS can not exclude those who reject 
its beliefs about the sinfulness of homosexuality.

How is this not viewpoint discrimination?


Rick Duncan 
Welpton Professor of Law 

University of Nebraska College of Law 
Lincoln, NE 68583-0902



"And against the constitution I have never raised a storm,It's the scoundrels 
who've corrupted it that I want to reform" --Dick Gaughan (from the song, 
Thomas Muir of Huntershill)





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