No, Marci.  You personalized this.

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I was not particularly interested in solely Doug's statements at the time, but 
rather his reasoning in his new piece.   Marc and now Eugene have personalized 
this.
There is no need for that.

Here is a fact:  Many following enactment of RLUIPA have stated unequivocally 
that the land use provisions were not intended to apply to the fair housing 
(i.e., civil rights) laws.
Since the only legis history on RLUIPA was RLPA, that assumption (that the 
civil rights laws were beyond the new statute) had to come from the RLPA 
proceedings.
What is the missing piece that explains how Doug and Marc have explained the 
history?


Marci



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                Indeed, Marci didn’t say Doug was “lying,” but when one says of 
a first-hand witness that the “history, as I knew it, was distinctive from his 
account,” and “Not sure how to square [Doug’s past reassurances] w Doug's 
current statements,” the implicit accusation seems to me to be pretty clear.

But I should think that this could be clearly resolved:  If Marci wants to 
produce some quotes from Doug that are at variance with his current statements, 
that would be very interesting.  But until any such quotes are produced, I’m 
inclined to trust Doug.

And I agree that we should discuss facts on the listserv without stooping to 
namecalling.

Eugene

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Marc-  I didn't say Doug was "lying."  I said that the history, as I knew it, 
was distinctive from his account.   I think we can discuss the facts
on the listserv without having to stoop to such namecalling.

Marci

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Saw it. In the next post, she accuses doug of lying to left wing groups about 
RLPA and civil rights. I've responded defending Doug.
Marc


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