Oh what a waste, Neil ;)

73, Tony W4ZT

At 11:57 PM 10/25/2004, Neil McKie wrote:


>   I got a 5' one outside in the shed - am thinking about making
>  a bird bath out of it.
>
>   One problem though, how to keep it from freezing .......
>
>   Neil
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>Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
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> > Use a multiswitch.
> >
> > I'm working on a 48" dish right now for looking at 101 alone ;)  Hope
> > to be rid of a LOT of rain fade.
> >
> > 73, Tony W4ZT
> >
> > At 09:00 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > a little help here?   if I am going to look at sat. A  and sat. B
> > > with 2 dish's  is there a way to hook them into the same input on
> > > one receiver?
> > >
> > > thanks John      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > From: TGundo 2003
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> > >
> > > I work for a high-end Custom home electronics company and deal with
> > > directv all of the time. Heres a few bits you may or may not find
> > > intresting.
> > >
> > > 1. Rain fade. Want to limit this? Put up three 1 meter dishes to
> > > look at the birds and have better signal reception. Yes, its an
> > > eyesore, but you hardly ever get rain fade!. The dishes are getting
> > > smaller and looking at three different positions in the sky, so they
> > > give up gain with the dish itself to look at all of these at the
> > > same time. They get away with this because the birds themselves are
> > > relativly high power. You can use up to a 1 meter dish to look at
> > > any one position in the sky and get much better signal, but not any
> > > bigger because again, the dish is too focused, At the 101 degree
> > > position there are actually three satellites which if I remember
> > > right are about 50 miles apart from each other in orbit, but at
> > > 24000 miles away thats virtually a single point in the sky from
> > > here. However, a dish bigger than 1 meter can single out one of the
> > > satellites. For you who have directv and have looked at your signal
> > > meter, with a 1 meter dish setup almost all of the transp! onders
> > > will read 100 all of the time with clear skys or even light clouds,
> > > and you hear toto flying by when rain fade actually knocks the
> > > signal out all together.
> > >
> > > 2. For long runs or commercial installs the standard is RG-11 coax
> > > to maintain signal level. There are amplifiers used for this as
> > > well. Stacker systems are becoming more common in MDU and high rise
> > > buildings. Basically, conventional satellite systems work 900 to
> > > 1500 as noted in a previously. The issue is that the reciever has to
> > > send a signal to the dish to switch between the a and b lnbs to look
> > > at the different birds, they cant both come down the line at the
> > > same time because they are both oviously coming down at the same
> > > frequency. You cannot just "split" the signal to multiple recievers
> > > because they would battle for control over the dish as channels are
> > > changed. Because of that distribution of that to dozens of recievers
> > > in a large building starts to get complicated because of  the
> > > voltage switches needed to facilitate the switching. The Stacker
> > > system sends the second dish feed down at 1500- 2 gig, so that all
> > > of the signals are on the line at the same time,! a on 900-1500, b
> > > on 1500 - 2000. Many of the recievers out there already have tuners
> > > built in that can accept the wideband input, just a simple trip into
> > > the service menu on the box and turn it on! Now we can amplify and
> > > split as needed to feed as many as you want! But RG-11 and 2 gig
> > > rated splitters and amps are a must.
> > >
> > > Thats my two cents on the matter.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > W9SRV
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> > > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >      > From: "russ"
> > >      > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 02:00:59 GMT
> > >      > To:
> > >      > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
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> > >      > Hey Does any one know what frequency that the coax line
> > >      coming from the LNB's to the receiver is? On direct TV.
> > >      > 73 Russ, W3CH
> > >      >
> > >      > yes the cable is rg6
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