I got a 5' one outside in the shed - am thinking about making 
 a bird bath out of it.  

  One problem though, how to keep it from freezing ....... 

  Neil 


Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
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> Use a multiswitch.
> 
> I'm working on a 48" dish right now for looking at 101 alone ;)  Hope
> to be rid of a LOT of rain fade.
> 
> 73, Tony W4ZT
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> At 09:00 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
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> > Tom,
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> > a little help here?   if I am going to look at sat. A  and sat. B
> > with 2 dish's  is there a way to hook them into the same input on
> > one receiver?
> >
> > thanks John      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: TGundo 2003
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
> >
> > I work for a high-end Custom home electronics company and deal with
> > directv all of the time. Heres a few bits you may or may not find
> > intresting.
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> > 1. Rain fade. Want to limit this? Put up three 1 meter dishes to
> > look at the birds and have better signal reception. Yes, its an
> > eyesore, but you hardly ever get rain fade!. The dishes are getting
> > smaller and looking at three different positions in the sky, so they
> > give up gain with the dish itself to look at all of these at the
> > same time. They get away with this because the birds themselves are
> > relativly high power. You can use up to a 1 meter dish to look at
> > any one position in the sky and get much better signal, but not any
> > bigger because again, the dish is too focused, At the 101 degree
> > position there are actually three satellites which if I remember
> > right are about 50 miles apart from each other in orbit, but at
> > 24000 miles away thats virtually a single point in the sky from
> > here. However, a dish bigger than 1 meter can single out one of the
> > satellites. For you who have directv and have looked at your signal
> > meter, with a 1 meter dish setup almost all of the transp! onders
> > will read 100 all of the time with clear skys or even light clouds,
> > and you hear toto flying by when rain fade actually knocks the
> > signal out all together.
> >
> > 2. For long runs or commercial installs the standard is RG-11 coax
> > to maintain signal level. There are amplifiers used for this as
> > well. Stacker systems are becoming more common in MDU and high rise
> > buildings. Basically, conventional satellite systems work 900 to
> > 1500 as noted in a previously. The issue is that the reciever has to
> > send a signal to the dish to switch between the a and b lnbs to look
> > at the different birds, they cant both come down the line at the
> > same time because they are both oviously coming down at the same
> > frequency. You cannot just "split" the signal to multiple recievers
> > because they would battle for control over the dish as channels are
> > changed. Because of that distribution of that to dozens of recievers
> > in a large building starts to get complicated because of  the
> > voltage switches needed to facilitate the switching. The Stacker
> > system sends the second dish feed down at 1500- 2 gig, so that all
> > of the signals are on the line at the same time,! a on 900-1500, b
> > on 1500 - 2000. Many of the recievers out there already have tuners
> > built in that can accept the wideband input, just a simple trip into
> > the service menu on the box and turn it on! Now we can amplify and
> > split as needed to feed as many as you want! But RG-11 and 2 gig
> > rated splitters and amps are a must.
> >
> > Thats my two cents on the matter.
> >
> > Tom
> > W9SRV
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> > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >      > From: "russ"
> >      > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 02:00:59 GMT
> >      > To:
> >      > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Direct TV type dish?
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> >      > Hey Does any one know what frequency that the coax line
> >      coming from the LNB's to the receiver is? On direct TV.
> >      > 73 Russ, W3CH
> >      >
> >      > yes the cable is rg6
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