I have a suburban 1997 white with 6 antennas for Ham radio rigs and a UHF radio for Med Chs. I am also the Asst. EMS Director with an ambulance service and have flashing lights. the State Police here in CO have hassled me about my suburban. To have lights you must possess an Authorized Emergency Vehicle Sticker and be certified by the State of CO. I have this Sticker and there is nothing that they can do. The State patrol that lives in our town has been caught several times uptown running me into the ground about my antennas and my lights that he can do nothing about. So. Just to make things better I Got a dog cage and put in the back of the suburban to keep my Yellow lab in when we go camping/fishing etc. I tell you what they Local State Patrolman has had a fit. the local PD and Sheriff are ok with it they are who gave me lights. and emergency equipment. I only run the lights to calls and in emergency situations the antennas are all used for Ham radio and except the one for UHF Med Radio and one for 800 Digital Scanner. All of which I can have. I did not know this problem was this widespread until reading about the NC man. Stay strong and fight them..
>From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop >car' due to ham antennas >Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:02:06 -0400 > >Gents, > >Recently (May 2005) two young ham radio operators in my town, >each of whom drove retired New York State Police cruisers >they had purchased at state auction were questioned and given >a hard time by both the local county Sheriff and several State Police >officers. > > >Both are amateur radio operators and had numerous antennas for the ham >bands. On occasion they also operated KR 10 SP 24 Ghz radar units. The >Sheriff tried to tell them it was illegal for a non-police officer to have >a >radar unit in their car (which is not true at all). > > >The New York State Police made an inquiry of the FCC regarding their >operation of the radar units. > > >As an ARRL Assistant Director and retired law enforcement officer who also >taught radio communication in the academy, I became curious and involved as >I mentored both hams helping them get their tickets. > > > >GRANTED, they are "wanna be's" and I in fact did suggest they fly under the >radar (sic), but being young like we all were at one time, they flew above >it a little. I knew they would most likely get stopped and questioned, >however as long as they wee not stopping anyone, they were legal. > > >On a hunch I called Riley Hollingsworth and you guessed it, the NYSP in >fact >did call him regarding the radar operation. I met with Riley at Dayton and >we had a chat regarding the issues and after several weeks, I received an >email with a copy to the Director of Communications of the New York State >Police (who I know) that it is perfectly legal for a ham to run a radar >unit >in a motor vehicle or anywhere as long as the frequency it operates on is >in >the amateur band. > > >NOW......X band is just outside the ham bands, but K band 24.150 Mhz if one >checks, is a shared allocation by hams and police. The FCC confirmed that K >band is not exclusive to the Police. I am aware of some X band units that >in >fact have been retuned into the 10 Ghz ham band by radar techs. > > >What the real problem was here is the that two are 20 years old, they had >cops toys and the cops did not like it. They got the usual treatment >because >they were young. > > >The bottom line is that it is perfectly legal for a non-police officer to >run a radar unit mobile AND if the 10 Ghz in not tuned for the ham bands, >it >is an FCC issue, NOT a POLICE issue. There is no probable cause to stop a >motorist, just because there is a radar unit on the dash. > > > >Both have since sold their Crown Vics because they got tired of the >unwanted >attention by the Police who had nothing better to do with their time. > >I took it upon myself to email the Lt. in the Sheriff's Dept. who had been >ordered to inspect the cars by the Sheriff and advise him of the FCC >response. He never acknowledged my email. Guess I took away all of their >fun. > > >Fred >WA2MMX > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank R. Vondra >Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:39 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' >due to ham antennas > >As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement >veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the >photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, >I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an >MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure >it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that >the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page >with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the >"ham card" as a defense. >Frank - WB0QQK > > >--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I >cannot see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as >a " cop car"... this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. >Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there >may be parts of the occurrence missing from the story. >Lance N2HBA > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
