My comments on this were generalized. Note the use of terms like "common dual-band radio" and "run of the mill dual-band radio".
Even the Kenwoods that supposedly support remote control don't do it in a way that is usable (I know. I own one. I tried it. And it is a kludge that would only work under perfect conditions). I also stated that IF you could provide means of ID and control, THEN it would be legal. Everything I said was qualified, knowing that there are exceptions. I stand by my statements. -- Keith McQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 801-224-9460 On 11/8/07, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Keith, KB7M wrote: > > > This is an issue that is highly misunderstood, and commonly abused. > > A "crossband" repeater is still a repeater and must therefore follow > > all of the rules for repeater operation. Unfortunately, the common > > dual-band mobile radio that supports repeater mode generally does > > not include ANY support for automatic control. > > Actually I believe the new Kenwood dual-bander added CWID's, but I > hear they mute the audio passing through the dual-bander when they > occur, so the feature isn't quite done right, but it's a move in the > right direction. Most dual-banders don't have this and the direction > from repeater -> dual-bander -> your HT is not ID'd legally. The > Kenwood will do it, supposedly -- but I don't have one to test with. > > > So, unless you somehow provide for all of the requirements of > > automatic control, you MUST provide some other means of control - RF > > remote, wireline remote, or Direct control. Again, the run of the > > mill dual band mobile radio doesn't provide any means for remote > > control. The only option left is a control operator sitting in the > > car with the radio. > > This also isn't true even of older Kenwood's -- they would accept DTMF > commands while in dual-band mode and it could be turned off, etc. > > > So, to answer your question, unless you provide for the same control > > capabilities any normal repeater would have as discussed at length > > in this thread, you can sit in your car and control the radio, but > > you CANNOT put your mobile radio in crossband mode and walk away > > from it. > > Only partially true, depends on the dual-bander. > > For the record, I'm not defending the practice of using a dual-band > rig as a repeater, nor do I like it really -- just saying that the > information provided is somewhat inaccurate in light of new > developments in the dual-band radio world these days... > > -- > Nate Duehr, WY0X > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <nate%40natetech.com> > > >
