If your goal in building a repeater is the experience and education it brings, and the chance to see how users react to your particular philosophy, could you live with having it on the air every other day to get a coordination 10 years sooner? I think that would work for most hams. If you share a frequency by assigning exclusive times for operation, there's no interference issue. If you try to leave overlapping repeaters on the air at the same time, many users will come on with the wrong tone programmed and inadvertently bring up the wrong machine, users will need two memories per frequency to differentiate tones, and there will be lots of other compromises. I would enjoy the friendly competition that might result from having another repeater sharing a frequency pair. It would probably be smart to partner with someone with similar views on repeaters. (If a minimalist who didn't like talking controllers or courtesy beeps was paired with a guy running an ACC in full game-arcade mode, the arrangement wouldn't satisfy either user base.) 73, Paul, AE4KR
_____ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Dickinson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:20 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness I still don't understand why people object to two repeaters - properly designed - cannot share the same channel? With separate PL tones and limited hand time, they can complement each other. The use of a coordinator that "assigns" a channel based on antiquated criteria is still providing exclusive use of a channel to an amateur repeater. As such, I think it could be challenged. In reality, two properly designed and implemented repeaters with PL tones can share the same electromagnetic space and live nicely together - they just get used one at a time based on the initiator's communications need at that time. IMHO Doug KC0SDQ