Paul,

This length always leads me to telling Hams that the 17 ft Comet does not have the 8+ dbd gain the package says. An antenna 44 ft long to get the 9-10 db gain from a very professional company with years of experience and now someone is going to make same in 17 ft package.

Doubling the antenna will give 3 db gain so if got one at 20 ft w/6 db gain and putting a second on at 40 or 44 ft will give 9 db, no problem. It is doable as you noted.

Of course the guy with the Comet 8 db 17 ft would think putting on 2 at 34 ft would give 16 db, hi.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

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Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

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On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Paul Finch wrote:

Do a Google search for yourself, it's the first result that comes up. The DB-228 is the same way, it about 44 feet long overall.

Paul


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Paul Finch wrote:
Actually I looked up the Super Stationmaster and and they have one that's rated at 9 DB at VHF.

dBi or dBd? Very  important. "DB" is a useless number without that
third letter when rating  antennas. (GRIN)

I'd say generally that what you're describing is not  physically
possible. (Unless the thing is enormous.)

The Sinclair  SD-218 is 40' long, and rated at 11.5 dBd and has 8
folded-dipole bays. The  antenna is taller than my 2 story house.

< http://www.sinclair technologies. com/catalog/ product.aspx? id=1693 <http://www.sinclairtechnologies.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=1693> >

(They  also work great. Two of them stacked on an 85' tower with a whole
whopping  5' of vertical separation -- ha -- makes for one hell of a
combined TX /  shared RX system for multiple VHF machines at one of our
sites.)

So... there's no way a Super Stationmaster even comes close.  The
physics just don't work out.

The much more commonly-seen SD-214  is 20' long and is 8.5 dBd.
< http://www.sinclair technologies. com/catalog/ product.aspx? id=42 <http://www.sinclairtechnologies.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=42> >

Note:  You lose 1 dB (dBd) if you get the Heavy-Duty/Low- PIM option.
< http://www.sinclair technologies. com/catalog/ product.aspx? id=2055 <http://www.sinclairtechnologies.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=2055> >

Nate  WY0X
 <http://www.sinclairtechnologies.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=2055>

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