Last month one the workers and I were inside a local shopping centre planning
additions to the fibre and telephone when we found some cable ( power) just
thrown in the dust above a vacant shop , live single phase 240 15 amp cable
resting inside a steel roof truss covered with dust , happily I had my voltage
pen with me so no harm but when the matter was broached with the manager he
attempted to ignore it with a dismissive...
He wont do that again :)
The alarming thing was it was neutral and active reversed and had nothing to
protect the naked copper
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:47:25 +0000
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to
Electrocution and Fire Hazards
<<<"Nevertheless, I see inadequate and
sometimes dangerous electrical installations almost on a daily
basis...">>>
Another "war story" that goes with your comment. Shortly after I
retired, I took a job with a company that was located in a former
International Harvester building doing general maintenance type work.
Part of that job included running over the rough concrete floors with
a cleaning machine. In one unused part of the building, I saw a
length of several fairly heavy wires lying on the floor, near a puddle
of water (the roof leaked in that section of the building). I thought
I'd just coil them up and hang them on a spike on the wall near where
they originated. I picked up the wires and started to coil them up
and as I straightened them out I hit the end of the wires and they
soundly hit me back with one of the most painful shocks I can recall
receiving. It turned out that those lines were part of a 440 volt,
three phase line that was never turned off when the equipment was
moved out of the area. Once again, I was very lucky in that the only
injury was one gigantic scare over what might have happened. Another
lesson, never ASS-ume that a line is dead until you confirm it. Had
my other hand been grounded, I probably wouldn't be telling this story
now.
Tom
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> Your dad is a man I can relate to and admire! I am an ICBO/IAEI
Certified
> Electrical Inspector, although that has nothing whatsoever to do with my
> employment in the aerospace business. Nevertheless, I see
inadequate and
> sometimes dangerous electrical installations almost on a daily basis My
> next-door neighbor once called me over to check some wiring he added
to his
> garage for some power tools. He had run some 18/2 SPT, commonly
called "zip
> cord", from a light socket above his washing machine over to a
receptacle
> box he added for a drill press. He said that the drill press stalled
> easily, and he often smelled a "burning odor." Duh! Not only was
the zip
> cord extension a violation of several articles of the National
Electrical
> Code, but it was undersized for the load and there was no grounding
> conductor! He was absolutely clueless about safe and legal electrical
> wiring. At my urging, he hired a competent electrician to install a
new and
> dedicated branch circuit for his workbench.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:47 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to
> Electrocution and Fire Hazards
>
> Can you imagine this happening in a residential / commercial
bathroom where
> the GFI is compromised?
>
> I'd relate that to "old sparky" in one of the state's pens, (say in
Florida)
>
> where the lethal death penality still exists.
>
> My Dad was an electrician and an electrical inspector for a city in
> Wisconsin. I still remember to this day when he would be out inspecting
> jobs, me along with him, and get really MAD when he saw something
like you
> have just described.
>
> I'll never forget the day when he called up an electrical contractor
and
> told him if he didn't fix the problem within 24 hours, he would yank
his
> license and refer him to the police department for endangering the
public's
> welfare.
>
> He was not a "liked" inspector, but was trusted within the electrical
> community. And he slept very well at night.
>
> Don, KD9PT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> >
> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
Due to
> Electrocution and Fire Hazards
>
> > The primary danger is electrocution, most likely caused by
exchanging the
> > neutral and ground leads inside the case. Although the power
supply will
> > operate just fine when wired this way, there is the possibility
that the
> > unit may be plugged into an improperly-wired receptacle- which
happens
> > often
> > when do-it-yourselfers change out a receptacle. If the receptacle
ground
> > connection is poor or does not exist, the power supply enclosure
can be
> > energized at 120 VAC and pose a severe shock hazard. Simple outlet
> > testers
> > normally will not detect such wiring errors, leading to false
confidence.
> >
> > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mung
Bungholio
> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:49 AM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
Due to
> > Electrocution and Fire Hazards
> >
> > I have one so we will see what they do when I bring it back in. It
hasn't
> > burst into flames yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mark Thompson
> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:48 AM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:Repeater%40yahoogroups.com> ;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Repeaters%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nfarl%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to
> > Electrocution and Fire Hazards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ********************************************************
> > U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
> > Office of Information and Public Affairs
> > Washington, DC 20207
> >
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> > July 2, 2008
> > Release #08-319
> >
> > Firm's Recall Hotline: (800) 843-7422
> > CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
> > CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908
> >
> > RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire
Hazards
> >
> > WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in
> > cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary
recall
> > of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using
recalled
> > products
> > immediately unless otherwise instructed.
> >
> > Name of Product: 13.8V DC Power Supplies
> >
> > Units: About 160,000
> >
> > Importer: RadioShack Corp., of Fort Worth, Texas
> >
> > Hazard: The recalled power supplies are wired incorrectly, posing
> > electrocution and fire hazards.
> >
> > Incidents/Injuries: None reported.
> >
> > Description: The recall involves RadioShack 13.8V DC Power Supplies,
> > catalog numbers 22-507 and 22-508 with date codes from
> > 08A04 through 01A08.
> >
> > Date code format is MMAYY where MM is the month and YY is the
year. The
> > catalog number and date code are located on the back of the power
supply.
> > Power Supplies with a green dot on the product and the product's
packaging
> > have already been repaired and are not included in the recall.
> >
> > Sold at: RadioShack stores nationwide from October 2004 through
January
> > 2008 for between $50 and $85.
> >
> > Manufactured in: China
> >
> > Remedy: Consumers should unplug the recalled power supply
immediately and
> > take it to
> > any RadioShack store for a free repair. Registered owners of the
recalled
> > power supplies
> > will be mailed a notice.
> >
> > Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact RadioShack at
> > 800-843-7422 anytime,
> > or visit the firm's website at:
> >
> > http://www.radioshack.com/recall <http://www.radioshack.com/recall>
> > <http://www.radioshack.com/recall <http://www.radioshack.com/recall> >
> >
> >
> > To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the
recalled
> > products, please go to:
> >
> > http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm108/08319.html
> <http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm108/08319.html>
> > <http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm108/08319.html
> <http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm108/08319.html> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > !DSPAM:1016,486e5618748231450673570!
> >
> >
>
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