Hopefully you will forgive me hijacking the post but this brings up a 
question I have had for a long time. What on earth is a "volt-amp". 
My logic would state that is is the same as a watt, which is volts x 
amps, as you probably well know. So what on earth is is?

Confused.....

Albert





--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, John Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> low power factors are bad -- you pay for the higher VA, but are 
only 
> using the lower watts to do actual work !!
> 
> I'm really surprised that USP doesn't have a PFC front end to bring 
> everything back into line.
> 
> Bob M. wrote:
> >
> > I have an APC SU2200 (SmartUPS, 2200VA) 3U tall, that I put new 
> > batteries in a few months ago. So far it's just sitting, plugged 
in, 
> > turned off, with no load. I got curious as to how much power it 
was 
> > sucking out of the wall outlet, so I plugged the UPS into my 
> > Kill-A-Watt device and plugged that into the wall. Here are the 
> > numbers I observed:
> >
> > 122.2 Volts
> > 1.48 Amps
> > 31 Watts
> > 181 Volt-Amps
> > 0.17 Power Factor
> >
> > The values were identical with the unit turned on, also with no 
load. 
> > The only thing running inside the UPS is the battery charger; the 
> > inverter is completely bypassed and is not running.
> >
> > I then ran the UPS into a test cycle, again with no load, but 
this 
> > time the inverter turned on and powered the load, thus 
disconnecting 
> > itself from the commercial AC power. Surprisingly, there was 
still a 
> > little bit of power being used, probably by the transformer and 
line 
> > sampling circuit. Here are the readings I got during the self-
test:
> >
> > 122.4 Volts
> > 0.09 Amps
> > 0 Watts
> > 11 Volt-Amps
> > 0.06 Power Factor
> >
> > As far as I know, the utility's kilowatt-hour meter on the side 
of my 
> > house, which is a rotating aluminum-disc style, measures WATTS, 
not 
> > Volt-Amps. Somehow APC has managed to get their charging circuit 
to 
> > draw a lot of current while keeping the power factor and Wattage 
power 
> > extremely low. I suspect it's highly capacitive.
> >
> > So here's where you all get to jump in. Is this UPS costing me a 
lot 
> > just to keep the batteries charged (180 VA) or am I only being 
charged 
> > for the wattage it draws?
> >
> > Bob M.
> >
> >
>


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