Scott, Nate, Paul,
Written words can seem more harsh than intended. This group does a great service to repeater builders and owners. I have benefited from it. And I believe any repeater owner, no matter how knowledgeable, can benefit. Many problems are solved. Much assistance is given with nothing demanded or expected in return. John AF4PD -----Original Message----- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:58 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional Nate, With all due respect, following your logic, if one careless mobile user lets his mic fall down in a seat crack, doesn't realize his PTT is stuck, and ties up your input for an hour driving through your coverage area, does it then follow that you ban all mobile users from your system? If I'm using a legal mobile repeater with an effective control scheme, I frankly don't give a rodent's rump if repeater owners "welcome such operations on our systems" or not. The idea that I'd hand over remote control of my amateur station to a repeater owner is a non-starter. There's also no longer any legal requirement or operational reason to identify a mobile repeater as a repeater in the ID. There are clean, legal, "good amateur practice" ways to do this, and if you're trying to communicate out of a reinforced concrete building used as a Red Cross shelter in a remote area, the "better options" you prefer may not be available. Calling the guy's GM300's a "crossband junkpile" was a little over the top. Then again, I tried to respond with positive suggestions, and he thought I was rude, too... ;^) 73, Paul, AE4KR ----- Original Message ----- From: Nate Duehr <mailto:n...@natetech.com> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional ...Call the repeater owner of the repeater you're THINKING about doing this to, and ask their opinion of it. If they say, "Please don't do it." Respect their wishes. I can definitely say that in all the time I've run repeaters, the only two things I've had to DF were jammers, and mobile cross-band repeaters built into user rigs that were set up wrong... ...Are you going to give a way to control your cross-bander to the control operator of the repeater you're connecting it to? - Is your crossbander going to ID and let folks know it's a cross-bander so they can come beat you with a Wouff Hong if you lock up their system? - Does your FT-8800 properly ID, or are you ID'ing it saying you're operating through a repeater? ...There are just better options... lots better... ...Plenty of ways to do that without a cross-band junkpile... . <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=104168/grpspId=1705063108/ msgId=92358/stime=1246489822/nc1=4025291/nc2=5689660/nc3=5349275> __________ NOD32 4209 (20090702) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
