The issue you point to of CW being allowed in the voice band is a bandwidth
issue.  That has nothing to do with repeater sub-bands.

You can call the frequency ranges (where the FCC allows repeaters)
a defacto band plan or any other term you want.  What it means is that
a person could use 146.52 Mhz as a repeater input or output legally
as long as they are not causing interference.



------ Original Message ------
Received: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:57:07 PM PDT
From: MCH <m...@nb.net>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

> Again, I will point out that just because you *can* do something it does 
> not follow that you must or you should.
> 
> Their wording is obviously a block in which repeaters are legal. That 
> does not mean repeaters are intended to cover the entire block.
> 
> If you look carefully at Part 97, you will see that repeaters are legal 
> everywhere except the satellite and other weak signal parts of the band. 
> So, it's more of a matter that 146.520 is neither that it's included in 
> the authorized repeater sub-band. And such a block does NOT make a
bandplan.
> 
> Again, CW is an authorized mode on all of 40M. Does that mean there 
> should be no voice communications on 40M?
> 
> Again, just because something is not illegal doesn't mean it should be
done.
> 
> I pointed this all out in previous posts.
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> > Actually, part 97 DOES have what are, in effect, bandplans.  Look in part
> > 97.205-B, where it defines the repeater sub-bands:
> > "A repeater may receive and retransmit only on the 10 m and shorter
wavelength
> > frequency bands except the 28.0-29.5 MHz, 50.0-51.0 MHz, 144.0-144.5 MHz,
> > 145.5-146.0 MHz, 222.00-222.15 MHz, 431.0-433.0 MHz and 435.0-438.0 MHz
> > segments."
> > 
> > 146.52 Mhz falls right in the middle of the FCC designated repeater band
and
> > not in the frequency range which the FCC has reserved for simplex
> > communications!  Someone could land a repeater input or output on 146.52
Mhz
> > and it would not be illegal.
> > 
> > Just because a local planning group has or has not made a bandplan
recognizing
> > a frequency does not make it illegal.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:25:52 PM PDT
> > From: MCH <m...@nb.net>
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
> > 
> >> Odd. It's not in the repeater band segment in WPA, nor is it in the 
> >> ARRL's bandplan, and Part 97 doesn't have bandplans - they jsut have 
> >> spectrum where certain operations are legal, but that doesn't mean you 
> >> have to use that mode.
> >>
> >> CW is legal everywhere per Part 97. Does that mean you should only 
> >> operate CW on all HF bands? Including the segments where voice 
> >> communications are permitted? (except perhaps 60M)
> >>
> >> Just because you are legal to do something does not mandate that you do 
> >> something. And I know of no local bandplan where 146.520 MHz is a 
> >> repeater output or input. Therefore, any such operation is against the 
> >> bandplan and poor practice (which is against Part 97).
> >>
> >> Joe M.
> >>
> >> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> >>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>> Received: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:55:42 AM PDT
> >>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>> Today if someone is using the output of a repeater frequency for a
> > simplex
> >>>>> conversation and someone else wanted to use the repeater then there
> > would 
> >>>>> be interference to the conversation that was first on that 
> >>>>> frequency.  Could this be considered malicious interference?
> >>> Times like this it is interesting to point out the best known simplex
> > freq
> >>> of 146.52 MHz is in the repeater sub-band and NOT the simplex
sub-band!!
> >>>
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