The issue you point to of CW being allowed in the voice band is a bandwidth issue. That has nothing to do with repeater sub-bands.
You can call the frequency ranges (where the FCC allows repeaters) a defacto band plan or any other term you want. What it means is that a person could use 146.52 Mhz as a repeater input or output legally as long as they are not causing interference. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:57:07 PM PDT From: MCH <m...@nb.net> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters > Again, I will point out that just because you *can* do something it does > not follow that you must or you should. > > Their wording is obviously a block in which repeaters are legal. That > does not mean repeaters are intended to cover the entire block. > > If you look carefully at Part 97, you will see that repeaters are legal > everywhere except the satellite and other weak signal parts of the band. > So, it's more of a matter that 146.520 is neither that it's included in > the authorized repeater sub-band. And such a block does NOT make a bandplan. > > Again, CW is an authorized mode on all of 40M. Does that mean there > should be no voice communications on 40M? > > Again, just because something is not illegal doesn't mean it should be done. > > I pointed this all out in previous posts. > > Joe M. > > JOHN MACKEY wrote: > > Actually, part 97 DOES have what are, in effect, bandplans. Look in part > > 97.205-B, where it defines the repeater sub-bands: > > "A repeater may receive and retransmit only on the 10 m and shorter wavelength > > frequency bands except the 28.0-29.5 MHz, 50.0-51.0 MHz, 144.0-144.5 MHz, > > 145.5-146.0 MHz, 222.00-222.15 MHz, 431.0-433.0 MHz and 435.0-438.0 MHz > > segments." > > > > 146.52 Mhz falls right in the middle of the FCC designated repeater band and > > not in the frequency range which the FCC has reserved for simplex > > communications! Someone could land a repeater input or output on 146.52 Mhz > > and it would not be illegal. > > > > Just because a local planning group has or has not made a bandplan recognizing > > a frequency does not make it illegal. > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > Received: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:25:52 PM PDT > > From: MCH <m...@nb.net> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters > > > >> Odd. It's not in the repeater band segment in WPA, nor is it in the > >> ARRL's bandplan, and Part 97 doesn't have bandplans - they jsut have > >> spectrum where certain operations are legal, but that doesn't mean you > >> have to use that mode. > >> > >> CW is legal everywhere per Part 97. Does that mean you should only > >> operate CW on all HF bands? Including the segments where voice > >> communications are permitted? (except perhaps 60M) > >> > >> Just because you are legal to do something does not mandate that you do > >> something. And I know of no local bandplan where 146.520 MHz is a > >> repeater output or input. Therefore, any such operation is against the > >> bandplan and poor practice (which is against Part 97). > >> > >> Joe M. > >> > >> JOHN MACKEY wrote: > >>> ------ Original Message ------ > >>> Received: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:55:42 AM PDT > >>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > >>>>> Today if someone is using the output of a repeater frequency for a > > simplex > >>>>> conversation and someone else wanted to use the repeater then there > > would > >>>>> be interference to the conversation that was first on that > >>>>> frequency. Could this be considered malicious interference? > >>> Times like this it is interesting to point out the best known simplex > > freq > >>> of 146.52 MHz is in the repeater sub-band and NOT the simplex sub-band!! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2265 - Release Date: 07/26/09 17:59:00 > > >