Thought I would pass this along.......Our EOC just purchased some Icom (8) 
channel UHF and VHF mobiles. (Also come in 128 ch.). They are PC programmable, 
and selectable WIDE/NARROW per channel. Cost about $275 ea. A real solid 
commercial rig. I can get mod.# if interested.

Tim W7TRH/AFA0TP

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Cort Buffington <c...@...> wrote:
>
> No monobanders outside of 2M left except Alinco. I tried to ask  
> Kenwood about the TM471, Yaesu about some of theirs (they still have a  
> 440 monoband HT), and didn't bother with ICOM since it would just be a  
> $700 radio made for D*. The answer was the same -- no market for it in  
> the US, though they make these radios for other markets.
> 
> the only way to get those other bands are a multi-bander or Alinco.  
> I'm not a huge fan of Alinco, but I did recently buy a pair of DJ-G7s  
> mainly to get the 1.2GHz. My general experience is that the multi- 
> banders aren't build to take quite as much abuse, don't have quite the  
> audio, usually have DC-light receivers with lousier selectivity --  
> hey, you gotta trade something off. That's why I use mostly commercial  
> gear and UHF only. If I could buy ham rigs for UHF only, I probably  
> would.
> 
> BTW: The repeaters are all Motorola commercial too. MSR2000 and R1225  
> (10w running at 1w with a TPL 100W PA), GM300s for link receivers,  
> barefoot 10W  R1225s for remotes. This is repeater builder, so I  
> thought I should throw that in there :) Nothing against other brands,  
> just have a lot of time spent getting to know the big /\/\
> 
> 73 DE N0MJS
> 
> On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:09 PM, MCH wrote:
> 
> > Exactly. It comes back to the mentality that 2M is the only VHF/UHF  
> > band
> > out there. What the ARRL needs to do is figure out a way to make hams
> > realize that 2M is not the only VHF/UHF band.
> >
> > What it really comes down to is that hams are CHEAP and multiband  
> > radios
> > cost money (but not twice as much for twice the bands - the additional
> > expense is an inverse log - 2 bands = 50% more, 3=66% more, Etc.).  
> > It's
> > a wonder we don't see more single-band HF radios. I apologize for  
> > those
> > who are shocked my this truth or by the fact I was brave enough to  
> > TYPE it.
> >
> > Maybe the ARRL needs to convince manufacturers to make more radios  
> > with
> > multi-band capability so the price will come down so more hams will  
> > buy
> > them.
> >
> > In WPA there are 3 repeaters on 900 MHz. Actually, there are 2
> > coordinated, and 1 that is planned - I'm not sure if any are  
> > actually on
> > the air.
> >
> > Again, there are plenty of pairs available in my area for narrowband
> > repeaters. If they only argument is the fact that the 2M repeater
> > sub-bands are full, then petition the FCC to expand the 2M band. Maybe
> > give us 148.2-150 MHz and make it a narrowband transmission only band.
> >
> > But forcing repeaters off the air is not a smart thing to do -
> > especially when you have users who will be forced to use a lesser  
> > number
> > of repeaters rather than buy new, more expensive, equipment. (cheap,
> > remember?)
> >
> > If the FCC would allow repeater use of the 144.4-144.5 MHz segment,  
> > that
> > could be paired with 144.9 - 145.0 MHz that has been largely abandoned
> > by packet users and is already repeater-legal. There you go - 9 pairs
> > ready to be used for SNFM operations that will not impact the  
> > current users.
> >
> > Of course, the overcrowding argument is a good one, too. I doubt you
> > will be able to prove that given the state most repeaters are in (that
> > being the IDLE state). I've also not seen one OOB repeater on the air.
> >
> > Oh, and where will all this 10M and 6M repeater equipment come from?  
> > The
> > commercial users don't have it for Low Band. 900 MHz is already
> > narrowband for the most part. Where are all these people who want to  
> > put
> > narrowband repeaters on the air? (reference my maybe 1 planned  
> > repeater
> > in WPA comment)
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Mark wrote:
> > > This is one reason why I have a 900 MHz machine on the air, Joe.  
> > Plus, it
> > > is "narrowband-capable" already! <grin>
> > >
> > > Seriously, my main concern (as well as another ham north of me who  
> > also has
> > > a 900 machine) is how to get some users! It sits for hours at a time
> > > without activity. (Other than me calling out "listening" or having  
> > the
> > > occasional rag chew with one of the three other users.) If only I  
> > knew how
> > > to generate more interest in 900 MHz without *ME* having to foot  
> > the bill
> > > for everyone else's radios... Of course, I'm open to suggestions -  
> > or
> > > donations!
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Mark - N9WYS
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of MCH
> > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:37 PM
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] ARRL Approves Study Committee to  
> > Research &
> > > Develop Plan for Narrowband Channel Spacing
> > >
> > > I bet there are few places that have every pair used in every  
> > band. It's
> > > likely more an issue of the fact that everyone *has* to be on 2M and
> > > nowhere else. Pandering to these types will only result in the  
> > LOSS of
> > > the other VHF/UHF bands.
> > >
> > > And have they through about how to pay for everyone to get a new  
> > radio?
> > > Will there be a government bailout so all the hams (many who can't
> > > afford a used radio) can buy new compatible gear?
> > >
> > > Joe M.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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