Skipp, It seems as if both of your answers suggest that the preamp be installed in the same place- between the duplexer and the bandpass cavity. Perhaps your intent for the second situation was to suggest that the preamp be placed between the bandpass cavity and the receiver input. The site noise level is a major factor when determining the placement of the preamp.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -----Original Message----- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement Hello John, > "W3ML" <w...@...> wrote: > Hi, not since high school... :-) > I have now read two different things about where to put > the pre-amp. Only two? > One says before the Bandpass and one after. > What I have now is the 6 can duplexer is hooked to the > bandpass and then on the other side the pre-amp is > connected and then a cable goes from preamp to radio. > The other article I read this past week says the preamp > should go between the cans and the bandpass. > Which is right? Or does it matter? Depends and it does matter... based on how busy your radio site is, where any other rf activity is relative to your frequency, the type of preamplifier, how it's constructed, your receiver front end, your duplexer type with number of cavities, your Tx Power level and a few other tidbits... got a headache yet? I'd venture to say... if your receiver front end is of decent Q (quality) and reasonably narrow band-width along with a decent duplexer... then the preamp might best go after the duplexer, between it and the band-pass cavity. If your receiver front end is average or fairly broad (a few MHz band-width) there might be a case to include the extra band pass cavity after the preamp before the receiver input. Some of this option depends on the duplexer and TX Power Level. The point of what I write above is about trying to obtain the best overload prevention performance and or damage control when the preamplifier is overloaded and generating unwanted signals. Many but not all the variables are are in the list. You could of course try both positions and measure the system performance. s.
