I have a question for the group. What is reverse
burst? And when is it used? Motorola radios.

Leroy.  J39AI.

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wd8chl wrote:
> The usual method we've used is to pull it to
ground when you don't want
> tone with a transistor or a FET. You can
remember though that, depending
> on your link rx, letting the Micor encode
reverse burst will close the
> squelch quicker than just letting it coast. My
experience is that the
> reverse burst on the stock Micor encode board
works on the vast majority
> of radios, both Motorola and not. It worked on
every Kenwood I had
> except for the old TK-801. Ham or commercial.
The only other radio I
> have had in recnt years that it did not work on
is the Yaesu VX-1R. Not
> even "chicken burst" works with that radio.
> 
> I can't say for sure, but I think that if you
key it with the PTT input,
> after the reverse burst delay, the tone will
shut off...I could be wrong
> though...I'm sure there's a simple way to do it
though. A one-transistor
> switch in the right place shoule do it.

Thanks.

It looks to me like the stock encoder supplies PL
tone to the 
transmitter continuously, whether PTT is active or
not. The only 
exception I can see is that for ~150 milliseconds
after PTT input to 
the encoder goes inactive, it switches to reverse
burst - then back 
to regular PL tone. It seems like a mod to keep
reverse burst but 
kill the regular PL tone while still allowing the
controller to keep 
the transmitter up (without tone) for IDs would be
more complex. 
Unless I'm overlooking something, which I've been
known to do!

Squelch tails are *probably* not going to be much
of an issue since 
I plan to use AND squelch with PL and the infamous
Micor carrier 
squelch at the receive end of the link. That Micor
squelch chip 
really clamps off the audio quickly if it's a full
quieting signal. 
If there is enough of a squelch "click" to annoy
me I can just add 
an audio delay in the appropriate spot.

Paul




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