OK, I should have been more specific. What would be a reasonable unit for a 
repeater site that may have only a couple thousand dollars worth of 
equipment inside?

Chuck
WB2EDV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff DePolo" <j...@broadsci.com>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary


>
> Probably the ones I've had the most luck with are the Islatrol series from
> Control Concepts.  I think they have been bought out by Emerson or Liebert
> or one of the other companies that have power divisions.  Anyway, they 
> call
> these "active tracking filters".  They not only are TVSS's but also filter
> noise, low-amplitude spikes, etc.  Right now I'm typing from a mountaintop
> site (broadcast) that we re-built a few years ago.  We put in an Islator
> I-2100 (120/240V single-phase).  The old equipment shelter which had been
> here since 1990 had the same model unit.  In the 15+ years we've been
> managing and maintaining the site, we've had zero surge-related failures,
> and this site sticks out like a sore thumb as far as lightning goes.  In 
> the
> last few years I've used the same series of arrestors for new site builds 
> at
> a dozen sites or so and have had no power-related problems.
>
> Others that make comparable-quality products include Joslyn, Transtector,
> and Innovative Technologies.
>
> There is one big difference (to me anyway) between TVSS's, that being
> whether they are the series or parallel type.  Series type takes the 
> utility
> service (or transfer switch output if there's a generator too) as its 
> input,
> and provides a protected output to feed the panel(s).  Parallel type is
> typically connected to a breaker in the panel, which puts it in parallel
> with all of the loads.  I much prefer series.  Parallel type can be less
> effective because a) there will always be some inductance and resistance 
> in
> the wiring between the panel and the protector, b) if the TVSS conducts,
> there's a good chance it will trip the breaker in the panel, resulting in 
> no
> protection until the breaker is reset, and c) they are much less effective
> as a noise filter.  The upside to parallel type is they can easily be 
> added
> at any time just by popping breakers in the panel and feeding the 
> arrestor.
> Series, on the other hand, are in-line with the service conductors, so if
> you want to add one (or repair one), you have to take the service down.
> Series tends to also be more expensive, especially for three-phase and
> unlike parallel type, the price goes up as the current rating goes up for
> obvious reasons.
>
> A good 200A single-phase arrestor of the ilk I'm talking about starts at
> about $1000 and goes up quite a ways from there.  I think these 
> single-phase
> I-2100's were in the $2000 range.  I recently spec'ed a 120/208 3-phase
> Transtector (parallel type) for another site where I'm much less concerned
> about power-wise, and that was about $1800.  No cheap, but where you're
> protecting equipment in the 6 and 7 figure range, it's a no-brainer.  If
> you're repeater is a Micor mobile and an Astron, it might be hard to
> justify... :-)
>
> --- Jeff

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