Github user ilganeli commented on the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/3518#issuecomment-67070557
  
    Hi @JoshRosen , I think I've finally understood what you've been saying 
from the beginning (apologies for being slow). I haven't been thinking 
correctly about what is going on during serialization. To make sure, I 
understand correctly what is proposed as an amendment:
    
    1) Use the existing code to attempt to serialize an RDD and its 
dependencies and based on this, identify specifically which RDD is not 
serializable.
    
    2) Use a generalized object graph walker (similar to your Object graph 
visualizer) which identifies both the explicit and implicit references within a 
class (in this case our RDD) to explore the internal references within the RDD 
and attempt to serialize those. By keeping track of this traversal we can 
identify the exact chain of references that leads to a failure. 
    
    When dealing with references, how can I explicitly identify them in a 
useful way? Will something like toString() on one of the references provide a 
useful identifier that can facilitate debugging? 
    
    Earlier on you mentioned excluding references to certain Spark internals 
while traversing the object graph. Could you elaborate on which internals could 
be ignored in this manner? Would this simply be an optimization? 


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