On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 8:02 PM Brian E Carpenter <
[email protected]> wrote:

> > Just to be clear, if the authors want to make unsolicited changes beyond
> what the RPC changed, they should be generating their own PRs, not making
> those changes to the RPC's PR.
> >
>
> And if the changes are not purely editorial, they must be reported to the
> WG, as long as we're talking about IETF Consensus documents. So that
> changes the game.
>

Well, the RPC side of this is to consult the AD. With that said, it's not
been my experience that the AD always asks the WG.



> BTW I'm not sure the procedure that Richard outlined is complete. There's
> an important step in the current procedure that he didn't list:
>
> 2a. Script sends RPC's specfic questions to authors in a second email
>
> and step 3 should read:
>
> 3. Authors respond to email including answering those specific questions
>

> So how are those questions handled via Github? And how does the RPC nag
> authors that don't reply?
>

They should be in GitHub issues. And the document simply shouldn't publish
until all issues are resolved.

-Ekr


>
>      Brian
>
> On 18-Sep-25 14:43, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 7:27 PM Paul Hoffman <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 17 Sep 2025, at 19:09, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >
> >      > To be clear, what I was trying to say was not that all the RPC's
> changes
> >      > should be in one PR -- though I think that's easiest for the RPC
> at this
> >      > point -- but rather that as they iterate on a given set of
> changes they
> >      > should be in a single PR.
> >
> >     How do you picture those author responses to the PR going? Simply as
> comments in the PR? Text changes done as commits in the branch that created
> the PR? Or something else?
> >
> >
> > Comments to the PR that specify what the authors want clearly and/or
> Github suggestions that specify the exact changes.
> >
> > I don't think commits in the branch that created the PR are helpful and
> generally may not be permitted by the GitHub permissions model (depending
> on exactly how things are specified).
> >
> >
> >     I ask because I suck at commenting in PRs for documents, and when I
> do so, I get wildly different advice from the authors about the proper way
> to comment in a PR. It would be good if the RPC could say to authors ahead
> of time how the authors should interact with the PR (just as they are told
> how to respond to AUTH48 email).
> >
> >
> > Well, hopefully this situation is clearer because the space of
> reasonable comments is rather smaller, as the authors should only be
> commenting on text the RPC has changed, and so mostly you should either be
> saying "Please revert this change" or "Here is yet another alternate piece
> of text".
> >
> > Just to be clear, if the authors want to make unsolicited changes beyond
> what the RPC changed, they should be generating their own PRs, not making
> those changes to the RPC's PR.
> >
> > -Ekr
> >
> >
> >     --Paul Hoffman
> >
> >
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