Thank you Jean! This makes sense.

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On 19 Sep 2025, at 12:38 AM, Jean Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

On 9/17/25 10:06 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:
The proposal is for the RPC to own the repository in which AUTH48 is done.

[JM] Yes, this would be an RPC-owned repo, which fits into our broader version 
control strategy.

If the WG / authors have a repo, it would be up to them to port any changes 
from the RPC repo back to that one.

[JM] It is on the roadmap to provide tooling assistance to authors port changes 
to their repos after the completion of AUTH48. Please see [1].

Thanks!
Jean

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=rpc_github_roadmap

--Richard
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 5:05 PM Ronald Tse <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
   As an observer outside this discussion, thank you to all who have
   been participating!
    From Richard’s proposal (which seems to me reasonable and
   effective), my question is whether the repository of the eventually
   to-be-published RFC would belong to the RPC or the author(s).
   I imagine it is somewhat awkward if the RPC/editor had to go to
   various authors’ repositories to make and track PRs. Different
   authors would likely use different repository structures.
   Perhaps the model would be having the Internet-Draft being developed
   at the authors’ repository, then at AUTH48 the RPC creates their own
   version of the repository for editorial and publication purposes?
   Ron
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   On 18 Sep 2025, at 11:02 AM, Brian E Carpenter
   <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
   wrote:

   Just to be clear, if the authors want to make unsolicited changes
   beyond what the RPC changed, they should be generating their own
   PRs, not making those changes to the RPC's PR.

   And if the changes are not purely editorial, they must be reported
   to the WG, as long as we're talking about IETF Consensus
   documents. So that changes the game.

   BTW I'm not sure the procedure that Richard outlined is complete.
   There's an important step in the current procedure that he didn't
   list:

   2a. Script sends RPC's specfic questions to authors in a second email

   and step 3 should read:

   3. Authors respond to email including answering those specific
   questions

   So how are those questions handled via Github? And how does the
   RPC nag authors that don't reply?

      Brian

   On 18-Sep-25 14:43, Eric Rescorla wrote:
   On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 7:27 PM Paul Hoffman <[email protected]
   <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
   <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
      On 17 Sep 2025, at 19:09, Eric Rescorla wrote:
       > To be clear, what I was trying to say was not that all the
   RPC's changes
       > should be in one PR -- though I think that's easiest for
   the RPC at this
       > point -- but rather that as they iterate on a given set of
   changes they
       > should be in a single PR.
      How do you picture those author responses to the PR going?
   Simply as comments in the PR? Text changes done as commits in the
   branch that created the PR? Or something else?
   Comments to the PR that specify what the authors want clearly
   and/or Github suggestions that specify the exact changes.
   I don't think commits in the branch that created the PR are
   helpful and generally may not be permitted by the GitHub
   permissions model (depending on exactly how things are specified).
      I ask because I suck at commenting in PRs for documents, and
   when I do so, I get wildly different advice from the authors
   about the proper way to comment in a PR. It would be good if the
   RPC could say to authors ahead of time how the authors should
   interact with the PR (just as they are told how to respond to
   AUTH48 email).
   Well, hopefully this situation is clearer because the space of
   reasonable comments is rather smaller, as the authors should only
   be commenting on text the RPC has changed, and so mostly you
   should either be saying "Please revert this change" or "Here is
   yet another alternate piece of text".
   Just to be clear, if the authors want to make unsolicited changes
   beyond what the RPC changed, they should be generating their own
   PRs, not making those changes to the RPC's PR.
   -Ekr
      --Paul Hoffman
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