I joined this list thinking it was a forum for left discussion. So far it has been dominated by debate on the Middle East, which is fair enough, but much of the material in this debate is racist. There's no point debating hate propagandists. I'll be leaving this list very soon. Ed Lewis>>
It has seemed that way to me, too, Ed. I'm brand new to the list and have just been lurking and "listening." It's really not useful to argue these things with venom. They've been argued that way for years. What we need now is for everyone on both sides to give more than 100% in terms of patience and forgiveness. It's the only way progress can be made. As for women -- yes, oppression is terrible. But women have proved they can pull themselves out of it given a relatively free society in which to work. Perhaps that's another reason some Muslim men work in such opposition to a free society. That said (and not to stop the discussion but to change course a little in hopes that we can all get along more like adults than spoiled children), What do you think of the lawsuit the 9/11 woman is bringing against the administration. Her charges look like they came straight out of Michael Moore's film to me. Ruth T. ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO=================================================http://pnews.org/ (links) http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) ==============================================================Sub/Unsub [pnews-l - rhetoric] :: http://pnews.org/signup.shtml ============================================================== ================= FIGHT THE RIGHT! =================