I think that care has to be taken when defining B=noise. In many cases, B 
contains some amorphous material scattering, air scattering, TDS, etc which 
one might account for using a proper model. So they will scale with time 
while the error part of noise will not.

miguel


On 19 Feb 2008 at 9:21, Michael Glazer wrote:

> It seems to me that if there is no internationally accepted definition
> of signal to noise ratio in powder diffraction, then let me suggest that
> this forum might be a way to define it once and for all. How about this?
>                       SNR = (P-B)/SQRT(B). 
> 
> Of course this would only give a  value for a single peak. I suppose one
> could also define a global SNR as a sum over all 
> Global SNR = sum over peaks (P-B)/SQRT(B).
> 
> Does this make sense?
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Van der Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 19 February 2008 09:09
> To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
> Subject: Re: advice on new powder diffractometer
> 
> Michael Glazer wrote the following on 19/02/2008 09:42:
> > 
> > Or else one could take the peak intensity divided by the square root
> of the background: this at least would improve with measurement time.
> > 
> > For instance suppose we have a peak above background of 10000 counts
> and a background of 1000 counts, this would give a signal to noise ratio
> of roughly 322. If we measure ten times longer, the peak intensity
> becomes 100000 and the background becomes 10000, giving a signal to
> noise ratio of 1000, an improvement!
> >  So my question remains: what is the definition of signal to noise
> ratio that is accepted for powder diffraction?
> >  
> >
> This at least coincides with data collection practice in single crystal
> diffraction: there it is said that in order to improve the 'signal to
> noise' ratio with a factor of two you have to count 4 times longer, or,
> alternatively, double the generator power.
> 
> Arie
> 
> 
> 

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