On 08/29/2018 04:15 AM, Le Bail Armel wrote:
Hi,

After the IUCr Monograph on Crystallography 13 (2002)

entitled "Stucture Determination from Powder Diffraction Data"

you may find in the preface :

"Although the Rietveld method of structure refinement from powder

diffraction data is often loosely considered to be synonymous with structure

determination, it is not. The Rietveld method only comes into play in the

final stage of the structure solution process when an approximate structural

model has been found."

WIF David, K Shankland, LB McCusker, C Baerlocher

A clear distinction having my complete agreement.

Armel

Armel,

Although the above statement may be generally true, I can provide a counter example. In Max W. Schmidt, Larry W. Finger, Ross J. Angel, and Robert E. Dinnabier, "Synthesis, crystal structure, and phase relations of AlSiO2OH, a high pressure hydrous phase", American Mineralogist, V. 83, 881-888, 1998, we only had a powder - no single crystals. From data measured at ESRF, we used GSAS to isolate the peaks of interest for the unknown phase, and used program TREOR to autoindex the unknown and identify the impurity phases. We then extracted intensities using the LeBail method, and determined the structure using direct methods with program SIRPOW. The structure was then refined with GSAS. We were even able to locate the H atom from Fourier maps!

Even 20 years ago, it was possible to determine the structure from X-ray powder patterns.

Larry


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