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On 16 Dec 2022, at 21:39, Daniel Suchy via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I support Gert here, network operators (LIRs) can have valid reasons to make 
> some their measurements non-public. So I don't support removal of this 
> feature. It's a bad idea...
> 
> If some probe host has problem with that, why don't mark such probes as 
> not-available for private measurements (this can be implemented easily)? And 
> I think there will be only minority of probes marked like that. Majority of 
> hosts will not care at all...
> 
> And keep in mind that Atlas is funded by LIRs and their money. All the 
> big-data infrastructure (and also making of hardware probes) costs real (and 
> not small) money. Existence of rivate measurements might be one reason, why 
> LIRs allow spending money for this useful project. Probe hosting is only 
> small piece in expenses within this project...
> 
> - Daniel
> 
> On 12/16/22 19:13, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:41:42AM -0800, Steve Gibbard wrote:
> Atlas, and the RIPE NCC, have two fairly separate constituencies:  
> researchers and operators.
> This.
> Operators (like me) are willing to host Atlas anchors and probes, and
> thus contribute to the system.
> I might be troubleshooting something in our network where I have no
> interest in making the results public.  So I value the option to have
> non-public measurements.
> There's no "right to see all measurements" here - if someone wants to
> see something, they are free to run their own measurements with their
> own credits.  What I do with my credits (which do not come for free)
> and who can see the results should be my decision.
> Gert Doering
>         -- NetMaster
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