clumsyoik Wrote: 
> No it doesn't. A CRC/MD5 or any other checksum will tell you if a single
> byte is wrong - but only if you know the correct checksum. 

I'm sorry but you fundamentally misunderstand CRC. Please check this
link:

http://www2.rad.com/networks/1994/err_con/crc.htm


> If you are talking about the internal error correction on the CD, you
> still don't get to know when it has failed. CDROMs are supposed to tell
> you about errors, but they often can't be trusted.> > > 
> > 
> > Again, this is totally wrong. With CRC, you know *immediately* if a
> > stream you're reading has errors.
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > Yes. Especially with scratched CDs and old CDROMs. EAC gives different
> > > checksums than other programs (including itunes and realplayer). I
> > > believe that EAC is more accurate, because the AccurateRip plugin tells
> > > me that several other people have the same checksum.
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > I think *belief* has a lot to do with things. For me to come and
> > suggest that WMP10 with error correction can do a good job
> > challenges that belief, hence the grief I'm getting.
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > I think the ripping process is much more complicated than you think. It
> > > is not as simple as "read the bits several times". When you "read the
> > > bits", how do you know which bits they are? It isn't like a hard drive,
> > > where you simply say "read the 100th sector"> > > > 
> > 
> > I have made no comment on the addressing of CD data. If you want to
> > know how ripping software retries after an error, you'll have to do
> > some googling. If your contention is that it can't be done, then
> > what does EAC do? If your contention is that it is possible, how do
> > you know that WMP10 doesn't do it? I'm not sure what your point is.
> > All I know is that WMP10 and EAC can both rip bit perfect.


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