--- andy b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Josh Coalson Wrote: 
> > --- I've never heard of
> > WMP being recommended or even if it can do secure ripping at all.
> > as was mentioned before most drives cache and/or lie about errors
> > and it takes a lot software gymnastics to get around that, and
> > so far EAC is the only program known to do it (and maybe
> > plextools if you have a plextor drive that's supported).

> But this is the same drive that gives me a bit perfect set of data if
> I
> put in a CD that happens to have a game on it... Why does it need to
> lie
> about errors when it's designed not to have any?

yet again we say: it is not designed to not have any errors.
multiple people here keep describing to you how the drives are
not designed to not have any errors.  and aside from that, data
CDs like what games are on have an extra layer of error correction
that audio CDs don't, and drives *are* designed to pay attention to
and report that on data CDs because that standard was developed much
later for better error handling, when even single bit errors are much
more problematic in data like software that normally go on data discs.

> > but if you don't really want to know and whatever you are doing
> > now sounds fine to you, there's probably no need to change.
> > 
> It sounds fine to me, but then it would do. It is the same data as on
> the disc.

if you believe that so strongly, why do you keep asking questions
about it?  just be comfortable with your belief and move on, the
truth about how drives and ripping work is of no consequence to you.

Josh



                
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