Greetings, We have been running Rivendell since version 1 almost ten years it seems. We have always been a debian based facility and never had any problem with that until version 3. Although I have no real problems other than getting the dependencies installed to get version 3 compiled on Ubuntu 18.04 The slow database issue that you speak of has kept us from moving on to version 3. Searching can be painfully slow depending on how many songs you have in a category, The log load at midnight can take 30 seconds or more which is unacceptable. We actually run Elementary OS in our studios which is a Ubuntu derivative ( 18.04).
I personally have no problem with the idea of running The appliance for Centos, but when trying to do that have run into many hardware issues on our current computers which I don't have with Ubuntu. So that is a non-starter. So the argument seems to come down to why don't you replace all your hardware, (12 workstations) run centos and get with the program. Why do I feel like I'm hearing a Microsoft argument. If I wanted to replace everything every year I would have just kept running a windows based automation like I was ten years ago. Still on 2.91 Tim Camp WZEW-FM Mobile, AL. On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:00 PM Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Ryan Kin wrote: > > > However, Rivendell was built and made for CentOS... Even though it's open > > source so you can modify it then put it onto Ubuntu > > That's it in a nutshell. The software is developed to run under CentOS, is > not being tested under any other Linux distribution, and it took an > immense amount of time and effort on my part to make it run under Debian > 10. Even so, sometimes it will compile and sometimes it won't. I can > unstall Rivendell, blow out rivendell-3.3.0, gunzip the .tar.gz file to > make a virgin rivendell-3.3.0, and recompile the same source code... and > it's even money whether or not it will compile. > > That's not something I can tolerate when I have radio stations clamoring > for my attention all day. I had a station call me a week ago; they are > owned by a local university which was sending all its students home due to > the pandemic, and the faculty adviser said they were going off the air, as > they didn't have an automation system. Now, I had an old Debian 6 > Rivendell 2.11.0 system I had built several years ago, and offered to run > it for them along with a Comrex Access I had bought for another project > but had not yet deployed. I kept them on the air when they otherwise would > have had to go off, and if I had had to depend on my new Debian system > they would have been off for ten days, because that's how long it took me > to get it working. > > Debian 10 is not Debian 6; QT3 will not build under Debian 10, so the only > Rivendell choice available is V3. V3 is far more complicated than V2, has > a lot more dependencies -- what is it with all this Python stuff? -- and > clearly wants to run under CentOS. Yes, if I invest enough time and > effort, I can make it run under Debian... but why bother? > > > Rob > > -- > Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы > И Linus великий нам путь озарил; > Нас вырастил Stallman на верность народу, > На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил. > > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 3:59 AM Schwoon, newsletter < > newslet...@schwoon.info> > > wrote: > > Am 28.03.2020 10:47, schrieb le père Léon: > > > Le 22/03/2020 à 14:58, Rob Landry a écrit : > > >> Well, finally got it to work. I blew out rivendell-3.3.0, > > re-gunzipped > > >> rivendell-3.3.0.tar.gz, then edited the source code manually, > > rather > > >> than applying the patch. > > > > > > The "default ''" appeared as "default " in the wiki. Modified. > > > > > >> Now rdadmin is complaining that the Rivendell daemons aren't > > running; > > >> evidently in this new era of v3 it doesn't automatically > > start them as > > >> it used to in v2. But that's no big deal. > > > > > > As noticed in the wiki, you can use : > > > - to start the daemons : > > > $ systemctl start rivendell > > > - to fix it at boot time : > > > $ systemctl enable rivendell > > > > > >> Debian is probably not going to be a viable option for > > Rivendell going > > >> forward, I think. > > > > > > Could you explain the reason why you think so ? > > > > Thats a good question.!! > > > > After running rivendell on centos for about one year, i switched > > back to > > debian/ubuntu. Why.? > > The newer and more software. And i think, Centos is a very good > > server > > distri, but not for desktops, specifically not for multimedia > > desktops. > > Too dificult to use special codecs like AAC HE, no ootb export > > to mp3 in > > audacity... > > > > On my debian 10 is only one problem left. The slow database > > access. In > > rdlibrary when showing all, not only the 1st 100 carts, in > > rdlogedit > > when loading a 24h log and moving carts up and down with the > > arrows.! > > > > Maybe there is a way to fix.?? > > > > -- > > Have a nice sunday! > > _______________________________________________ > > Rivendell-dev mailing list > > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > -- Tim Camp Director of Operations/Programming Dot Com Plus L.L.C. dba WZEW-FM WNSP-FM Mobile, Al.
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