I agree it would be prestigious and helpful for the Tcl community to host
its own community development environment, but I'm concerned about the
ability of the community to actually fulfill on it.  It's a lot of effort,
and nobody would be working on it full time.  I feel like a professional
organization operating as a business is more likely to be successful over
time.

I've been using github for a while and I like it.  And with git, everyone
who has a distribution checked out has the entire repository, which really
helps if the hosting goes away or gets corrupted or whatever.

If there is something really turnkey, then maybe that is the way.  If not,
it's a minefield.  Even sourceforge has been unresponsive and slow to
adapt.  If we don't have the resources and we try to do it anyway, we'll
be even worse.

Just my $0.02...

On 11/17/10 12:12 PM, "Damon Courtney" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>  Putting on one of my other hats for a moment - is this a service that
>> the Tcl Community Association should be offering to the community?  Or
>> is this something better handled via sourceForge or the other code
>> repository services.
>> 
>>  Just for general info, currently, TCLCA pays for the wiki, runs the
>> US conference and acts as our front for the Google Summer of Code.
>
>
>Personally, I'm against using SourceForge for future projects.  There has
>already been much talk about getting Tcl/Tk off of SourceForge in the
>future, and it is exceedingly hard to do that right now.  I would hate to
>see us put more projects there.  I don't have an answer as to what we
>SHOULD use, but that's just my opinion.
>
>Some mention has been made of using Fossil repos on some future basis.
>It's distributed, nice and small, and it's written by one of our own.  I
>use Git for just about everything these days and Github for hosting, but
>I would rather come up with something that we (we being the Tcl
>community) own ourselves.  We don't have anything like Rubyforge or the
>like, but it sure would be nice.
>
>I guess I don't have an answers about what we SHOULD do right now, just
>an opinion on what I'd rather we not do.  Which is not very helpful, I
>grant you, but that's all I got.  More discussion with the community as a
>whole is needed here.  TDOM is a project that while definitely relating
>to Rivet and the Web in general is a symptom of a larger issue.  We don't
>have anyplace to put stuff that can belong to the community.  At this
>point I don't even think we need something as big and grand as Rubyforge.
> Just a machine where Fossil (or Git or whatever) repos could live would
>be a good start.  We can worry about the interface later.
>
>D
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