Well, it's not exciting or glamorous to run your own "forge" that's for sure.  
At this juncture I was just proposing a box somewhere that people can host 
Fossil repos on.  Fossil already has its own built-in bug tracker, wiki, etc... 
 I'm not sure how hard it would be to run multiple repos on a single machine 
with since Fossil kinda wants to run its own web server.

If we could figure that out, each project already has all the bits it needs.  
You can have a "project" website up and running in Fossil just by creating the 
repo.  At least to start with.  If someone wants something more than the 
default, they can kick in some work on Fossil and do it. *shrug*

That being said, I really like Github.  Their issue tracker is really not going 
to work for something with high volume though.  It's already slow as hell for 
me, and I have only 100 or so issues.  Blech.

D


On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Karl Lehenbauer wrote:

> I agree it would be prestigious and helpful for the Tcl community to host
> its own community development environment, but I'm concerned about the
> ability of the community to actually fulfill on it.  It's a lot of effort,
> and nobody would be working on it full time.  I feel like a professional
> organization operating as a business is more likely to be successful over
> time.
> 
> I've been using github for a while and I like it.  And with git, everyone
> who has a distribution checked out has the entire repository, which really
> helps if the hosting goes away or gets corrupted or whatever.
> 
> If there is something really turnkey, then maybe that is the way.  If not,
> it's a minefield.  Even sourceforge has been unresponsive and slow to
> adapt.  If we don't have the resources and we try to do it anyway, we'll
> be even worse.
> 
> Just my $0.02...
> 
> On 11/17/10 12:12 PM, "Damon Courtney" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>> Putting on one of my other hats for a moment - is this a service that
>>> the Tcl Community Association should be offering to the community?  Or
>>> is this something better handled via sourceForge or the other code
>>> repository services.
>>> 
>>> Just for general info, currently, TCLCA pays for the wiki, runs the
>>> US conference and acts as our front for the Google Summer of Code.
>> 
>> 
>> Personally, I'm against using SourceForge for future projects.  There has
>> already been much talk about getting Tcl/Tk off of SourceForge in the
>> future, and it is exceedingly hard to do that right now.  I would hate to
>> see us put more projects there.  I don't have an answer as to what we
>> SHOULD use, but that's just my opinion.
>> 
>> Some mention has been made of using Fossil repos on some future basis.
>> It's distributed, nice and small, and it's written by one of our own.  I
>> use Git for just about everything these days and Github for hosting, but
>> I would rather come up with something that we (we being the Tcl
>> community) own ourselves.  We don't have anything like Rubyforge or the
>> like, but it sure would be nice.
>> 
>> I guess I don't have an answers about what we SHOULD do right now, just
>> an opinion on what I'd rather we not do.  Which is not very helpful, I
>> grant you, but that's all I got.  More discussion with the community as a
>> whole is needed here.  TDOM is a project that while definitely relating
>> to Rivet and the Web in general is a symptom of a larger issue.  We don't
>> have anyplace to put stuff that can belong to the community.  At this
>> point I don't even think we need something as big and grand as Rubyforge.
>> Just a machine where Fossil (or Git or whatever) repos could live would
>> be a good start.  We can worry about the interface later.
>> 
>> D
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