Ted Husted wrote:
> The underlying problem is that the infrastructure is shared by thirty
> projects, many of them high-profile, and there is a disinclination to
> add any more hardware than necessary.
That said, we've added considerable hardware resources, and brought several
servers online recently.
> The ASF is also a high-profile target for hackers (black and white hat),
> so people are naturally cautious about new tools.
Another, and a major, issue is that we get tons of traffic. It took
tweaking for MoinMoin to run acceptably with our load. and Confluence has
issues, but was brought up in a mode where it publishes static sites, rather
than being accessed dynamically. Several projects, AIUI, are using it.
> With one exception: Hermes supports zones and some projects get their
> own zone where they can run their own stuff.
We've talked about a Roller zone. But see above regarding performance
issues for public facing services.
> We are in the midst of transfering the bulk of infrastructure support
> to a third-party, which could bring about more change, but, like
> everything else, that initiative seems to be proceeding at a glacial
> pace.
I'm not sure what we're ready to announce, but this feels misleading to me.
On our end, there are some things for which we are waiting.
> Those of us who do write a lot of documentation realize the value of
> products like JSPWiki or Confluence, but it's difficult to explain
> that to someone who codes with emacs and dimisses anything else as a
> "shiny new toy".
Huh? Context please? We've installed several "shiny new toys". The
problems are getting people to maintain those shiny new toys, and finding
ones that are not, in fact, toys incapable of standing up under heavy load,
and not putting undue load onto shared hardware resources.
> there is no rule that says we can't link to third-party resources.
True. It just tends to piss people off.
Getting back to Dave's question, and addressing the actual infrastructure
concern, can someone comment on the ability for the Roller + JSPWiki pages
to be cached, which is a key performance and resource utilization
consideration?
--- Noel
