I don't think you can copyrigt ideas anyway.  Im not an expert on
copyright but im pretty sure you can use ideas without it being a
derivitive.  Like the man said, there are only so many ways to write  a
loop

If I used

for (x=0;x>10;x++) 

in a program I write and another program does the same, is it a
derivitive?  I don't think so.  I think derivitive would be if you
started with ROM and changed it.  No matter HOW much you change it's
still a derivitive of ROM.  Using ideas that you see in another mud such
as ROM I don't think counts.  As long as you didn't steal the code from
it.  

Not an expert opinion, just mine.  I may be 110% wrong.

K



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 2:04 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc: '[email protected]'
> Subject: RE: Requesting help
> 
> 
> Personally, I wouldn't be over concerned with borrowing a 
> little socket code
> from ROM.
> 
> The 10 lines worth of socket code required can be found on 
> 100 sites about
> socket programming.
> It's far from stealing, or borrowing.  It's just convenient.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 1:56 PM
> > To: Pell, Blake
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Requesting help
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday 16 May 2003 11:58, Pell, Blake wrote:
> > >If you are looking, then re-typing the code it might as well 
> > be copying 
> > >code at which point I'd think it violates the ROM license 
> if you're 
> > >making your own source.
> > 
> > Oh my god, I've had to bite back sooo many biting retorts. 
> > So, I'll just let the code speak for itself.  I'll let the 
> > list tell me if I have a ROM derivative or not... (but 
> > really, honestly, I see no way that I can stop it from being 
> > a ROM derivative if you call it one - there's only so many 
> > ways to send data in a loop to someone!!)
> > 
> > Really though, of 926 lines of code (real code, non-blank or 
> > comment), 917 are completely unique. (Or... they better be!)
> > 
> > // Snip.
> > const char color_ident[16] = {
> >   'x', 'r', 'g', 'y', 'b', 'm', 'c', 'w', 'd',
> >   'R', 'G', 'Y', 'B', 'M', 'C', 'W'
> > };
> > const char * colors[16] = {
> >   "\e[0m", "\e[0;31m", "\e[0;32m", "\e0;33m",
> >   "\e[0;34m", "\e[0;35m", "\e[0;36m", "\e0;37m",
> >   "\e[1;30m", "\e[1;31m", "\e[1;32m", "\e[1;33m",
> >   "\e[1;34m", "\e[1;35m", "\e[1;36m", "\e[1;37m"
> > };
> > void telnet_server::write_to_descriptor(descriptor * d)
> > {
> >   if (serverdown)
> >     return;
> >   string str;
> >   char input[8192], txt[8192];
> >   int start, write, block, x, length;
> >   str=d->get_outbuf();
> >   if (str == "")
> >     return;
> >   *input=0;
> >   strcpy(input, str.c_str());
> >   length=strlen(input);
> >   *txt=0;
> >   for (start=block=0; start < length; start++)
> >   {
> >     if (input[start] == '{')
> >     {
> >       if (input[start+1] == color_ident[x])
> >       {
> >         strncat(txt, input+block, start-block);
> >         strcat(txt, colors[x]);
> >         block=start+2;
> >         break;
> >       }
> >     }
> >   }
> >   strncat(txt, input+block, start-block);
> >   x=d->get_socket();
> >   length=strlen(txt);
> >   for(start=0; start < length; start+=write)
> >   {
> >     block=(length-start < 4096)?length-start:4096;
> >     if ((write=send(x, txt+start, block, 0)) < 0)
> >     {
> >       perror("write_to_descriptor() failed");
> >       return;
> >     }
> >   }
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > // End snip
> > 
> > I will note, however, that your issue of whether or not it's 
> > a ROM derivative is... utterly unimportant.  I posted to find 
> > out if I can enlist the aid of someone with skill. Because 
> > I'm at my wit's end.. I cannot figure out why once everyone 
> > logs out of the mud, and someone logs back in, the mud 
> > crashes on the first command they type, and their pretitle is 
> > mystically "You're all set!" and their name is my room description!!
> > 
> > Oh. Noteworthy: a clean compile didn't fix it... but I hadn't 
> > tried it. Its much appreciated and will go on my list of 
> > "things to try before whining"
> > 
> > ;-) Thanks Dale.
> > 
> > Mark
> > Esheliam
> > 
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