On 23.03.2006, at 00:10, ARIN wrote: > Repet: a "nega" ceva NU inseamna "apologia" a altceva! > [...] > Insa in privinta lui DI ne contrazicem degeaba! Pana la urma, exact, > CE a > facut tipul acela? a indemnat pe cineva la ura de rasa sau ceva de > genul > asta? sau doar a spus ca el "nu crede" ceva?
"Austria has Europe's toughest law criminalising denial of the Holocaust. Irving went on trial for two speeches he delivered in the country almost 17 years ago. He was arrested in November last year after returning to Austria to deliver more speeches despite an arrest warrant against him and being barred from the country." "In the two 1989 speeches he termed the Auschwitz gas chambers a "fairytale" and insisted Adolf Hitler had protected the Jews of Europe. He referred to surviving death camp witnesses as "psychiatric cases", and asserted that there were no extermination camps in the Third Reich." [...] "Last night Irving's partner Bente Hogh said he had brought his imprisonment on himself by going to Austria despite the ban. She said: "He was not jailed just for his views but because he's banned from Austria and still went. David doesn't take advice from anyone. He thought it was a bit of fun, to provoke a little bit."" [...] "Judge Peter Liebtreu called Irving "a racist, an anti-Semite, and a liar", citing the verdict delivered by Justice Charles Gray at the high court in London in 2000 when the historian lost a libel case against an American writer and academic and was bankrupted." http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,,1714403,00.html --------------------------------- Fax 11 Mar '94 14:14-Australian Embassy ViennaRepublic of Austria Federal Ministry of Justice File No.0.21703/2-IV 1/94 Australian Embassy in Vienna With reference to the note verbale of 4 March 1994 the Federal Ministry of Justice advises that the Province Court for the City of Vienna issued an arrest warrant against David IRVING on 8 November 1989 and forwarded it to the Austrian Security Service. The arrest warrent for the above named was put into force on 9 November 1989. The arrest warrant could not be executed. The Federal Ministry of Justice has not been informed of the entry into Austria of David IRVING after the arrest warrant was issued. The Federal Ministry of Justice would like to take this opportunity to present its compliments. 10 March 1994 For the Federal Minister FELSENSTEIN --------------------------------- [textul original:] Republik Österreich Bundesministerium für Justiz 0.21703/2-IV 1/94 An die Australische Botschaft IN WIEN Mit Beziehung auf die Verbalnote vom 4.3.1994 beehrt sich das Bundesministerium für Justiz mitzuteilen, daß das Landesgericht für Strafsachen Wien am 8.11.1989 einen Haftbefehl gegen David IRVING ausgestellt und den Sicherheitsbehörden übergeben hat. Die Ausschreibung des Genannten zur Verhaftung im Inland ist am 9.11.1989 erfolgt. Der Haftbefehl konnte bis jetzt nicht vollzogen werden. Von Einreisen des David IRVING nach Österreich nach dem Zeitpunkt der Erlassung des Haftbefehls ist dem Bundesministerium für Justiz nichts bekannt geworden. Das Bundesministerium für Jüstiz benützt diese Gelegenheit, die Versicherung seiner vorzüglichen Hochachtung zum Ausdruck zu bringen. 10. März 1994 Für den Bundesminister: FELSENSTEIN www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Austria/AustrianGov100394dt.html -------------------------------------- # # # [din verdictul procesului] Irving vs Penguin & Lipstadt: VIII. JUSTIFICATION: THE CLAIM THAT IRVING IS A "HOLOCAUST DENIER" (inter alia:) -- What is meant by the term "Holocaust denier" -- The question whether the statements made by Irving qualify him as a "Holocaust denier" in the above sense -- Irving's denial that he is a Holocaust denier -- The oral and written statements made by Irving which are relied on by the Defendants for their contention that he is a Holocaust denier and the evidence relied on by the Defendants for their assertion that Irving's denials are false. -- The existence of a systematic programme or policy for killing Jews -- The numbers of Jews killed -- The assertion that the gas chambers were a propaganda lie invented by the British http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/judgmentsfiles/j22/queen_irving.htm#8 # # # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial Chomsky criticism, Faurisson affair http://chomskyfaurisson.notlong.com > Codruta g *** sustineti [romania_eu_list] prin 2% din impozitul pe 2005 - detalii la http://www.doilasuta.ro *** Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romania_eu_list/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/