On the other hand discussing things in realtime has its advantages.
As for IRC being hidden and alientating people. You can say the same thing
about the ML. I for one feel better talking to niche group of people than to a
public list where I don't even know if the people I need to talk to are
subscribed. Also if someone is able to subscribe to the ML I'm sure he can
handle IRC. I'm not saying everything should be done over IRC but I'm saying
it's pretty useful.
Where I see the real problem: any post to ML gets an instant "join IRC" reply.
I think we can and should do better than that. If someone posts here we should
keep it here.
Kamil
----- Original Message -----
From: Ged Murphy
To: 'ReactOS Development List'
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Networking
Aagghhhhh!!! Why is everything always done over IRC????
The neglection of the reactos mailing lists is one of this _big_ things this
project does wrong.
- It forces the community into a sort of hidden niche group and
alienates people who don't use IRC
- It gives the impression that reactos activity is low. There are
thousands of people who follow this project aren't on IRC and have no idea of
what is going on.
- It arguably deters new people from joining because they can't
really get to grips with the project without becoming a slave to IRC
- It means important discussions are missed, even by the core team,
if they aren't watching the IRC chat 24/7 or miss a PM
I could go on and on with reasons of why you neglect the mailing lists is so
harmful, but I fear no one will listen to my cries.
Maybe I should vent my frustration in IRC for the niche community, and we can
all have an internal discussion about it???
Ged.
From: ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On
Behalf Of Aleksey Bragin
Sent: 27 October 2010 13:54
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Networking
Yes, please feel free to join our channel when you have any questions. I will
create a branch for your coming work, if you like.
Thanks!
WBR,
Aleksey.
On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Olaf Siejka wrote:
Hiya
Discussing issues on ros-dev maillist is fine. I asked Aleksiej to pass you
the irc channel discussion mostly for helping you out with basic ROS stuff like
compilation, VM setup and testing issues.
Regards
2010/10/27 Oleg Baikalow <obaika...@gmail.com>
Hi,
I see you're busy discussing other stuff and my message went unnoticed :) I
made a look to existing network branches, found many of them. LWIP is
interesting. Alexey said the best way is to join your irc channel. I will try
to occasionally join, but in your project, mailing list must be a primary point
of discussion not irc channel.
I think I start from making a simple, but robust tcpip driver (with help of
numerously available source code of tcp/ip protocol implementations). Hopefully
you could give me branch access, it's gonna be hard to develop it with patches.
// Oleg Baikalow.
P.S. I really like your "kernel coding style", quite rare to see that in
opensource projects. Most of foss projects utilize linux-alike stlye, whic is
harder to read and not that clean.
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