On Monday 31 August 2009, Christopher Cherrett wrote:

> So would it be possible in thorn to have the ability to go into note mode?

Who's going to get the mechanics to work is my main question.  I like the idea 
in principle, but don't have time to worry about writing that mode switcher 
just at the moment.  It would take a bit of piddling to work out how to swap 
all the shortcuts around from one mode to the other, unless you happen to have 
solved that problem already.  (And then if you have, it's probably too much to 
hope for that it bolts in place with our new menu and action creation scheme.)

If the enhancements on the table are the matrix shortcuts keyboard map at the 
page Heikki found, that whole map looks largely plausible, with some 
adjustments to suit how things have diverged after the fork.  I wouldn't have 
any particular interest in using that myself, but you took the hardcore 
keyboard users with you, and if they like this scheme, it's probably a good 
scheme, and you've done the work of coming up with an arrangement that works 
well.

I don't use most of the notation shortcuts that swallow the keyboard either, 
but the ones I do use regularly would be on the other map, the only map we 
currently have, so my only big concern there as a user is making it quick, 
reliable and simple to flip.  A sticky mode like toggling caps lock comes to 
mind, probably with an indicator on the status bar.

Should all be workable.

Julie wants time to get her current rework finished before thinking about 
this, but if the two modes are sufficiently self-contained, it doesn't seem 
too likely to cause conflicts there, and the biggest question is where to find 
a key on our own map to use for working the toggle.

One benefit not considered is if we have some mechanism for swapping out a 
keyboard map, we can more easily accommodate international keyboards.  
Depending on how all the backend stuff works, especially, it would be nice to 
have some way to easily rearrange our existing note keys map to other 
international layouts.  I'm not sure what the status of all that is past or 
present, but I don't think we've ever done an adequate job of accommodating 
how these key relationships make little sense on, for example, German layouts.

That probably applies to your map as much as ours, and maybe you have indeed 
already worked out some way to handle that.

Anyway, where I come down is I'm interested, but I've set aside several of my 
own personal high priority agenda items to buckle down and get into crunch 
mode with the feature set we're going to have for the release we've just got 
to get out there soon.  I've been spending all my time working on a subproject 
I enjoy about as much as getting my teeth cleaned, and this has got to get 
done, while adding some new notation keyboard mode is easily something we 
could save for the next release.  I'm not saying that has to be the case, but 
what I am saying is the less of my direct attention this requires, the better.
-- 
D. Michael McIntyre

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