Here's an example of an old 835 (sanitized).. would you like to discuss it? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
ISA*00* *00* *ZZ*9000000380 *ZZ*DD0064 *950510*0320*U*00303*951300304*0*P*>~ GS*HP*9000000380*42T091*950510*0066*209225*X*003030M~ ST*835*1076~ BPR*I*18788.66*C*ACH************950511~ TRN*1*000000000000000000000000000000*9000000380*000209225~ REF*F5*ACPS99~ N1*1P*Hospital Name~ N3*Hospital Address Line~ N4*ANYWHERE*SC*999999999~ LX*950911~ TS3*42T091*11*950930*2*21328.04*20901.64*426.40**18788.66**2112.98*********4 26.40~ TS2***********2*22*22~ CLP*H031025061*01*6779.09*6832.24***0195117435150*11*1*01*462~ CAS*CO*89*172.70**A2*-225.85**96*172.70~ CAS*OA*B3*6606.39~ NM1*QC*1*LASTNAME*FIRSTNAME***HN*248599999A~ MIA*8**************8~ REF*EA*H018999~ DTM*232*950320~ DTM*233*950328~ CLP*H030578999*01*14548.95*11956.42***0195117447999*11*1*01*462~ CAS*CO*89*253.70**A2*2338.83**96*253.70~ CAS*OA*B3*14295.25~ NM1*QC*1*LASTNAME*FIRSTNAME****HN*326096999A~ MIA*14**************14~ REF*EA*H206999~ DTM*232*950303~ DTM*233*950317~ SE*27*1076~ GE*1*209225~ ============================================================================ ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Identifiers > In order to determine requirements for handling identifiers, I would > prefer to work with real live data rather than being forced to blue-sky > it. At this point, we have to produce a Working paper on Identifiers. > The problem remains that we still don't have any idea what identifiers > people use in the real world on the ISA or GS, and how they might relate > to those used within the application transaction on the NM1 and REF > segments. > > I'm sure none of us is daunted by the prospect of analysis - but we have > to have *something* to analyze. I am urging payers and large providers, > especially, to share technical details with us. For example, tell us > what IDs you prefer to be addressed by (e.g., the NAIC) and their > values. Tell us how you identify your trading partners on the ISA and in > the application. What Clearinghouses do you use? What are your CH's > addressing requirements? Can you share an extract of your trading > partner file which not only includes these IDs, but basic demographics > (Provider taxonomy code, basic name, address, EDI contact, etc.)? Can > you share your HIPAA IG companion guides, also? > > C'mon, it isn't exactly a state secret to say I require providers to > address interchanges with NAIC co-code XXXXX and that I use CH A and B. > Or that I have the TIN for my providers, which if push came to shove, I > could use as the receiver ID. > > None of this should be especially sensitive information, though I > respect your concern - if any - in sharing this stuff. Please write or > call me privately so that we can discuss how any information you share > will be used in the analysis, and who would have access to it. > > William J. Kammerer > Novannet, LLC. > +1 (614) 487-0320 > > > >
