On Mar 22, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Mark J Elkins wrote:

McTim - what then are you suggesting? .. to never have PI IPv6 in the
AfriNIC region?

I believe that some organisations truly need PI IPv6 address space.
I don't think its down to us to discuss pricing - but I'd have to agree
with you - if the price was high enough
only those that really need would apply - as long as its world
route-able (thus filling up routing tables around the world).

From a "Routing Table" point of view - this is one reason why I liked
the idea of providing back-to-back /48 allocations for the likes of
IXP's - addresses that would not need to be routed around the world...
separate from organisations that really do need world route-able addresses.

The folk at AfriNIC can allocate addresses from appropriate blocks
according to the needs of the clients
The new draft doesn't explicitly define the size of the block from which the assignments will be made. As Adiel pointed out, these decisions are affected by many other factors and as such we should leave it to AfriNIC to make that decision.

- they could even have a two tier
price - low price for world-non-routable, high price for world- routable.
ditto.

-v

In the mean time....
a) We still need a PI IPv6 policy though.
b) The "routing table" problem will be solved - the AfriNIC negative
(as in growth of the table size) contribution will be negligible.



JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Nobody is asking to be in panic mode, just to fulfill the AfriNIC and the community rules and having a balance in what is really needed and what is
conservation.

Making possible for all end-users to apply for this policy may become a big waste and not only about addresses and routing slots, but also a problem for
AfriNIC to handle contracts, fees and membership of end-users (as
individuals) and many additional implications.

Regards,
Jordi





De: Alain Patrick AINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organización: technologies réseaux et Solutions (www.trstech.net)
Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List
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Fecha: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:12:03 +0000
Para: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <[email protected]>
Asunto: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] AfriNIC Policy Proposal: IPv6 ProviderIndependent
(PI) Assignment for End-Sites

On Thursday 22 March 2007 11:27:39 McTim wrote:

On 3/22/07, Alain Patrick AINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

seems easy to fix between now and abuja :-)

The other hidden aspect of this discussion is: "are we solving a problem
for ens-site or for end-user ?"

We are solving a problem for a small number of folk, but creating
future problems for all.  We can obviate future woes by setting
appropriate fees for v6 PI.

I recommend this: http://www.vaf.net/~vaf/rrg.pdf  for folk who are
interested in routing scaling issues.

Yes. Routing and addressing scalability is an issue and we have to look at it,
but not in panic mode.

IETF-68's yesterday plenary has an interesting discussion on it .

See the routing and addressing problem status report  at :
http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/plenaryw-3.pdf


--alain
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