On 3/23/07, Colin Alston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ccTLD registrars

I think you mean registries here.

are one example of people who *do* need their own IP
space. They cannot rely on PA space because in the case of our co.za

which is a SLD not a ccTLD.

they don't peer with a provider in all cases,

do you mean they don't have an upstream provider?  Are they a Tier 1 then?

they connect to an IXP

which is just where they peer.

and need to be self sustaining.
For other organizations which are large, and tedious renumber, the
non-offering of PI space seems simply like a reason to force these
people to have to do business with a single ISP or face losing their
IP addresses.

Provider lock in is a consequence of aggregation.  IP addresses aren't
property, they can't be "owned", therefore they are not "their"
addresses.

The "We hate renumbering" argument is not sufficient IMHO to undo the
many years of IETF work, where the notion of IPv6 PI was debated and
decided against.


We do need PI space.

And the next x generations of network engineers will curse you for your "need".

Since ARIN folk have let the genie out of the bottle, we may as well
have PI in AfriNIC region as well.  I do want us to be conscious of
the road we are setting out on, considering carefully all of the
potential pitfalls, before we actually take the first step.

--
Cheers,

McTim
$ whois -h whois.afrinic.net mctim
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