On May 24, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

> * Jeff Johnson <n3...@mac.com> [May 24. 2011 03:13]:
>> 
>> Well there _IS_ a need, just a litter of Suggests: et al hints isn't
>> the best approach imho.
> 
> Agreed, its certainly not the best approach but better than nothing
> imho.
> 
> At the last OpenSUSE conference we had a discussion about an 'app
> installer' providing additional information for packages. One
> suggestion was 'social rating', kinda 'like' button for packages.
> 

Known.

>> 
>> The "preference" equivalent is "best" or "worst" (and their weaker forms 
>> "better" and "worse"
>> and there's no obviously objective way to score that. Yes there are 
>> approaches,
>> I tend to favor statistical approaches like "voting" (but there are issues 
>> there too
>> with malicious tampering with the voting results).
> 
> And this information is dynamic and should come from an online service
> and not be put into the package, where its 'frozen'
> 

This is of course exactly the opposite of what you said here

>                                        ... By putting it into
> the package, you get a clearly defined place, clear semantics, and
> packagers don't have to edit multiple places.

Which is it: "putting it into the package" or dynamic?


>> 
>> There's a number of approaches, but asking a vendor or a packager
>>      Is this package "good"?
>> isn't the right approach (and that is built into Suggests: et al). End users 
>> have
>> preferences, not vendors/packagers.
> 
> Absolutely ! However, its also a matter of knowledge and experience.
> As of today, packagers have this knowledge and letting them put this
> into the spec file is a simple way to make this knowledge accessible.
> 

I could argue "packagers knowledge", but hey, I'm just the gut with 13
years of RPM experience and 14+ releases and many many builds.

> There might be a not too distant future where end users also have this
> knowledge and(!) a way to share this knowledge with others. IIRC
> people at freedesktop.org are discussing possible solutions.
> 

Praise Bob! Slack ensues and dead cows litter the fields!

(and obscure reference to the Church of the Sub-Genius)

73 de Jeff

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