On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Matt Wynne <m...@mattwynne.net> wrote:

>
> On 13 Apr 2009, at 12:46, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>  A couple of years ago I was on a project that had fallen into the trap of
>> too many integration tests (exactly the horror scenario that J.B.
>> Rainsberger describes: http://www.jbrains.ca/permalink/239). The whole
>> suite had hundreds of slow watir tests and took several hours to run. If
>> there was a failure, it was usually just in a coupel of them.
>>
>> We ended up improving this a lot with a homegrown distributed RSpec runner
>> (based on Drb) and employing techniques from pairwise testing (
>> http://www.pairwise.org/).
>>
>> At the time I also explored a third technique that we never put in use:
>> Heuristics.
>>
>> If we could establish relationships between arbitrary files and failing
>> tests over time, then we would be able to calulate the probablilty that a
>> certain commit would break certain tests. We could then choose to run the
>> tests that had a high probablilty of breakage, and exclude the others. A
>> neural network could potentially be used to implement this. The input
>> neurons would be files in the codebase (on if it's changed, off if not) and
>> the output neurons would be the tests to run.
>>
>> So if someone develops a better AutoTest with a plugin architecture, and
>> that doesn't have to run as a long/lived process, then I'd be very
>> interested in writing the neural network part - possibly backed by FANN (
>> http://leenissen.dk/fann/)
>>
>> It's so crazy it has to be tried!
>>
>> Aslak
>>
>
> Aslak as usual you have stepped it up another seventy levels!
>
> I'm really keen to write a generic test runner that works on both RSpec and
> Cucumber examples alike (and could extend for other testing libraries).
> Allowing for pluggable strategies for test selection as Stephen has
> described is a terrific idea.
>
> Aslak do you have any ideas in the pipeline for building a fancier test
> runner for Cucumber? I know there was some brain-storming on the list a
> while back about a 'thick client'.
>

Maybe ;-)

Aslak


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