Check the wording in the TLP. 

Eliot

> On 24 Jul 2025, at 11:31, Martin Thomson <m...@lowentropy.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jean.
> 
> I had observed the same change, but was also unable to find why.
> 
> The point is exactly as you say, this stuff is just a barrier to getting at 
> content, especially on a small screen.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, at 11:24, Jean Mahoney wrote:
>> Martin and David,
>> 
>> Is the reason to move the boilerplate to the end of the RFC to help the
>> reader access more of the technical content of an RFC when they first
>> click a link or open the PDF?
>> 
>> Some background:  The boilerplate used to be placed on the last page of
>> the RFC per RFC 2223 [1], but during the subsequent revision of RFC 2223
>> [2] (portions of which were in force before its eventual replacement by
>> RFC 7322), it was moved to where it is today [3].
>> 
>> The RPC will investigate why the placement changed (as this occurred a
>> while back, and the archives are not immediately revealing answers) and
>> whether the boilerplate should be moved. I've opened an issue on
>> rfc7322bis [4].
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Jean
>> 
>> [1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2223.html#section-11
>> [2]
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rfc-editor-rfc2223bis-08#section-4
>> [3] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7322#section-4
>> [4] https://github.com/rfc-editor/draft-rpc-rfc7322bis/issues/53
>> 
>>> On 7/24/25 9:46 AM, Jean Mahoney wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The Trust Legal Provisions v5 [1] says the following about the placement
>>> of copyright statements:
>>> 
>>> 6. Text To Be Included in IETF Documents. The following text must be
>>> included in each IETF Document as specified below. The IESG shall
>>> specify the manner and location of such text for Internet-Drafts. The
>>> RFC Editor shall specify the manner and location of such text for RFCs.
>>> The copyright notice specified in 6.b below shall be placed so as to
>>> give reasonable notice of the claim of copyright.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Jean
>>> 
>>> [1] https://trustee.ietf.org/documents/trust-legal-provisions/tlp-5/
>>> 
>>> On 7/24/25 7:55 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>>> On Jul 23, 2025, at 22:44, Brian E Carpenter
>>>> <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think this is not a policy issue and does not deserve RSWG time. It
>>>>> should be an RPC issue.
>>>> 
>>>> The structure and format of RFCs is absolutely a policy issue. Imagine
>>>> if the draft instead said that the Security Considerations section
>>>> always had to be before the Introduction.
>>>> 
>>>>> I also think it's totally wrong. It isn't fluff. By moving this
>>>>> important information to the end, we would make it even less likely
>>>>> that people will read it.
>>>> 
>>>> We disagree; I kinda like the idea.
>>>> 
>>>> Having said that, the proposal is for moving the fluff for both RFCs
>>>> and I-Ds to the end of the document. The RSWG cannot (as far as I can
>>>> tell) make policy for Internet Drafts.
>>>> 
>>>> --Paul Hoffman
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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