The (8.2 / 8.4) rsyslog service stop/restart issues on VMware instances
appear to be resolved.
Rsyslog 8.6.0-2 is functioning properly after upgrading to latest release.

Thank you!

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Rainer Gerhards <rgerha...@hq.adiscon.com>
wrote:

> I have had now time to check the ChangeLog. There was a fix when imudp
> prevented shutdown. This is now part of 8.6.0. I could very well address
> what you describe.
>
> HTH
> Rainer
>
> 2014-12-02 23:04 GMT+01:00 Kendall Green <kendallar...@gmail.com>:
>
> > To specifically answer the question, "Are you saying that DebugOnDemand
> > must be set for rsyslog to work properly? or that you are only trying to
> > start it with that set?"
> >
> > We've tried both service rsyslog start and /etc/init.d/rsyslog start,
> which
> > rsyslog will appear to run properly, however shutdown does not work
> > properly unless is started with /etc/init.d/rsyslog start while debug on
> > demand env is set. Thus if started services from the init.d then execute
> > service rsyslog restart, the system would appear to shutdown and startup
> > properly, but the next stop action would fail to report in
> > /var/log/messages as restart from 'service' script has same issue as the
> > 'start' function. So Yes, debug on demand must be set then run by
> > /etc/init.d/rsyslog start and restart, or the stop process is latent and
> > without logging.
> >
> > Thank you for your help in isolating this obscure issue with rsyslog
> > running on VMware instances with RHEL6.5.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Kendall Green <kendallar...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > In order for rsyslog to start/restart properly on VMware, the set env
> > with
> > > export RSYSLOG_DEBUG="DebugOnDemand" and directly execute
> > > /etc/init.d/rsyslog start, no special debug options, and if restart
> from
> > > service script it will fail to stop properly with exit status in
> > > /var/log/messages.
> > >
> > > When comparing ps -eZ |grep rsyslog, on physical server, kernel prefix
> > the
> > > output, but the VM displays only a hyphen, '-' preceding pid
> information
> > > that is otherwise the same.
> > >
> > > Does this solution apply concerning vmware kdump: and the necessity for
> > > the debug variable?
> > >  https://access.redhat.com/solutions/260003
> > >
> > > So, VMware instance of RHEL6.5, rsyslog ps -eZ process does not appear
> to
> > > be owned by 'kernel', start/restart will display stop/exit status in
> > > /var/log/messages when /etc/init.d/rsyslog start is executed from root
> > > directly with debug on demand set. Is debug setting at all related to
> > that
> > > rh solution?:
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    When hot-adding memory to a Red Hat Enterprise Linux system running
> in
> > >    a vmware environment, the system may attempt to reload the kdump
> > kernel and
> > >    regenerate a new kdump initrd.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM, David Lang <da...@lang.hm> wrote:
> > >
> > >> If SELinux is disabled, you should be able to see any differences in
> how
> > >> rsyslog is started by looking at the resulting command line with ps
> (or
> > >> thorugh /proc)
> > >>
> > >> There has to be something different about the way they are being
> started
> > >> if one works and the other doesn't.
> > >>
> > >> Are you saying that DebugOnDemand must be set for rsyslog to work
> > >> properly? or that you are only trying to start it with that set?
> > >>
> > >> David Lang
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kendall Green wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:30:26 -0700
> > >>> From: Kendall Green <kendallar...@gmail.com>
> > >>> Reply-To: rsyslog-users <rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com>
> > >>> To: rsyslog-users <rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Question on DoDie
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Verified SELinux is disabled on both VMware instance and baremetal
> > >>> installs, and no systemd, only the traditional service init
> functions.
> > >>> There doesn't appear to be any differences between the scripts:
> > >>> /etc/init.d/rsyslog and the /etc/rc.d/rc#.d/S12rsyslog
> > >>>
> > >>> There appears to be something ''unknown'' happening on vmware
> instance
> > >>> for
> > >>> service init, which could relate to the udev rules, kdump, being
> > >>> different
> > >>> from baremetal, or another aspect which makes a difference when
> setting
> > >>> DebugOnDemand and starting from /etc/init.d/rsyslog instead of
> service
> > >>> rsyslog start.
> > >>>
> > >>> Both methods of starting the rsyslog service appears to work, but
> will
> > >>> not
> > >>> stop and restart properly. However stop/start/restart will succeed
> > >>> consecutively, only when started by '/etc/init.d/rsyslog start' while
> > >>> DebugOnDemand value set for rsyslog debug env.
> > >>>
> > >>> Since it is consistently, only a problem on systems that are VMs on
> > 8.2.2
> > >>> and now 8.4.2, even with RHEL6.2 recently upgraded to RHEL6.5 and
> issue
> > >>> persists.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone have an answer to more specific difference between
> > init.d/rsyslog
> > >>> start and service rsyslog start on RHEL6.x?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:36 PM, David Lang <da...@lang.hm> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  This sounds like it's more likely a problem with the service
> > >>>> scripts/systemd config than with rsyslog itself.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> what is different between /etc/init.d/rsyslog start and service
> > rsyslog
> > >>>> start?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> is the command line any different? or are they started with
> different
> > >>>> SELinux settings?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> David Lang
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kendall Green wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  I have encountered similar issue which is repeatable when running
> > >>>> RHEL6 on
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> VMware instances, with RSyslog 8.4.2.ad1, where shutdown takes a
> very
> > >>>>> long
> > >>>>> time and does not report the exit signal to /var/log/messages as it
> > >>>>> does
> > >>>>> on
> > >>>>> baremetal installs. The issue is that rsyslog stop/exit message
> only
> > >>>>> appears in /var/log/messages if started/restarted from
> init.d/rsyslog
> > >>>>> when
> > >>>>> having rsyslog debug env value set DebugOnDemand.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Running service rsyslog stop/start or restart will show the exit
> and
> > >>>>> start
> > >>>>> messages, but the next stop or restart will fail to report the
> > >>>>> exit/service
> > >>>>> stop message because rsyslog needs to be started by
> > >>>>> init, "/etc/init.d/rsyslog start" instead of "service rsyslog
> start",
> > >>>>> along
> > >>>>> with the debugging on demand, present but inactive. Otherwise, when
> > >>>>> rsyslog
> > >>>>> is started without debugging, or from service rsyslog start, the
> > stop /
> > >>>>> exit message is lost, and the slowdown indicates other issues with
> > the
> > >>>>> shutdown/processes...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are these issues already corrected in the upcoming 8.6.0 release,
> > with
> > >>>>> announcement of bug fix for shutdown issues when running with more
> > than
> > >>>>> one
> > >>>>> thread, or support for RHEL7 systemd, backwards compatible with
> RHEL6
> > >>>>> service rsyslog scripts?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Kendall
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Rainer Gerhards <
> > >>>>> rgerha...@hq.adiscon.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Just in case you have overlooked my message: i am waiting for a
> > debug
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> log.
> > >>>>>> And... sorry if *I* overlooked a log you sent ;)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rainer
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from phone, thus brief.
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