Deere Jobu,

In so many words ... FUCK YOU!

BBWWAHHAAAA!!!

Slef E.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf'....


> Dude - your inverted logic astounds practically any person with electrical
> activity in their gray matter.
>
> YES - you are VERY dangerous. You are dangerous because you place politics
> above common sense.
>
> Your post and the subject line that called our nation a "Little Nation"
> referred to the recent terror threat and the grounding of certain French
> flights, not the liberation of Iraq in order to remove a ruthless dictator
> who was providing safe harbor to terrorists.  WE ARE AT WAR AGAINST
> TERRORISM. How many times have we heard the President say "This is a
> different kind of war," yet you just don't (or more likely won't) get it.
>
> According to your comments below, we caused 9-11 and deserved it.  Don't try
> to deny that you said it, because it is now in the archives for all to see.
> I'll reprint below for emphasis:
>
> >Jobu: I bet is we weren't over there occupying THEIR lands then we wouldn't
> >be the 'infidels'. 9-11 wasn't the first attack on US citizens by these
> >terrorist, but it was an attack that could not be ignored. Take a minute to
> >look beyond USA Today and contemplate on why these people want to kill us.
> >Therein lies the basis for their courage and anger toward the US.
>
> YOU ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!
>
> You are more dangerous than any terrorist because politics has blinded you
> to logic. YES, there is a problem with the perception of America in the
> Middle East. However, logical people realize that does not form a basis for
> killing thousands of innocent civilians.
>
> You claim not to be liberal, yet if this is true, then you are missing your
> calling. They want and need you. I will not go through each "point" you made
> and rebuke each one because doing so insinuates that such rebuttal is
> necessary, it is not. Any reasonable person can see through your facade.
>
> In my original post, I called you some childish names. I apologize for that.
> It was below me. I was simply infuriated to return from my Christmas
> vacation and find THAT waiting in my inbox.
>
> I realize that some people in this country are actually hoping for another
> terrorist attack, because that would be politically damaging to President
> Bush. I am beginning to wonder if you are one of those people.
>
> I'll leave with two more quotes. One from a historical philosopher so that
> you will realize that you are in good company and another from our President
> on September 20, 2001.
>
> People like you have threatened societies for as long as humanity has
> inhabited the earth.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot
> survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for
> he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the
> traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling
> through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the
> traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim,
> and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness
> that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he
> works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city;
> he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is
> less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."
>
> - Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Our response involves far more than instant retaliation and isolated
> strikes.  Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign,
> unlike any other we have ever seen.  It may include dramatic strikes,
> visible on TV, and covert operations, secret even in success.  We will
> starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from
> place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest.  And we will pursue
> nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism.  Every nation, in every
> region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with
> the terrorists.  From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor
> or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile
> regime.
>
> - U.S. President George W. Bush - September 20, 2001
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Behalf Of Joel Perry
> >Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:43 AM
> >To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf'....
> >
> >
> >Let's take 'em one at the time:
> >TB: You know what Joel, I don't know you from a hole in the wall and I 've
> >only been participating here for a very short time now, but so far you
> >strike me as not only a liberal idiot, but a dangerous one as well.
> >Jobu: Liberal? Hardly. Dangerous? Only to a 12 pack of Corona. I
> >tend to not
> >believe the face value of anything. I also tend to state my thoughts even
> >when they go against the herd mentality of the rest. Especially if Sleffie
> >is included with the majority. And he usually is because he can't put
> >together two original thoughts without help from his dogs.
> >
> >TB: We are at war dumbass!  Did we just avert another terrorist attack???
> >Maybe, maybe not. I'd rather be safe than sorry, jackass.
> >Jobu: War? I seem to remember a stunning young ace fighter pilot (The theme
> >to Top Gun in the background) landing on an aircraft carrier deck and later
> >declaring that it was the end of major conflict in the "Liberation
> >of Iraq".
> >Even so, we still seem to be losing man and women almost daily as the US
> >spreads its wings around the oil wells, in mean, the people of
> >Iraq. The use
> >of the word "War" conjures up visions of two opposing armies facing off in
> >order to battle for their cause. The US invaded a nation to arrest (kill,
> >be-head, castrate, slaughter, or the more popular 'bring to justice') their
> >leader in order to protect our freedom. We destroyed their army and
> >proclaimed the US victorious. If this was once a 'war', it has now turned
> >into 'occupation' and there is no end. BTW, how's that search for those WMD
> >coming? I thought so......
> >Jobu con't: Each time we cancel or cause to cancel a flight, we are not
> >averting a terrorist attack. As I said before, we'll know all about the
> >latest attack after CNN reports it.
> >
> >TB: How many more 9-11's will it take for you to understand that we are at
> >war with an enemy whose stated goal is to "kill all infidels"??
> >Jobu: I bet is we weren't over there occupying THEIR lands then we wouldn't
> >be the 'infidels'. 9-11 wasn't the first attack on US citizens by these
> >terrorist, but it was an attack that could not be ignored. Take a minute to
> >look beyond USA Today and contemplate on why these people want to kill us.
> >Therein lies the basis for their courage and anger toward the US.
> >
> >TB: Let me make it simple for you, that means either convert to
> >Islam, or be
> >dead. I suppose a pussy ass wimp like you would just rather convert than
> >fight for his own freedom.
> >Jobu: Replace the word 'Islam' with 'Christianity' and one could make the
> >argument that the US is waging its own 'Holy War' under the cover of
> >'combating terrorists and their beliefs'. Are we really fighting for our
> >freedom or against the culture and lifestyle of a religious sect that we
> >perceive to be less civilized than our own? We may be winning the
> >gun fights
> >in the streets of Iraq, but we are losing the safe feeling we once
> >had. When
> >you think about flying or boarding a cruise ship, what are the first
> >thoughts you have? When you pass a gasoline tanker on the highway, do you
> >pay it any attention or do you sometimes think of what could happen with a
> >well placed explosive on the tanker? If we are indeed fighting for our
> >freedoms, why are we a nation of people who are always seeing things in the
> >shadows?
> >
> >We have not gained anything by this 'war' except drawing attention from the
> >fact that Osama is still unaccounted for.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On
> >Behalf Of Tim Boozer
> >Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:54 PM
> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf'....
> >
> >You know what Joel, I don't know you from a hole in the wall and I 've only
> >been participating here for a very short time now, but so far you strike me
> >as not only a liberal idiot, but a dangerous one as well.
> >
> >We are at war dumbass!  Did we just avert another terrorist attack???
> >Maybe, maybe not. I'd rather be safe than sorry, jackass.
> >
> >How many more 9-11's will it take for you to understand that we are at war
> >with an enemy whose stated goal is to "kill all infidels"??
> >
> >Let me make it simple for you, that means either convert to Islam, or be
> >dead. I suppose a pussy ass wimp like you would just rather convert than
> >fight for his own freedom.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and
> >degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is
> >worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to
> >fight, nothing he cares about more than his personal safety; is a miserable
> >creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the
> >exertions of better men than himself. "
> >
> >- John Stuart Mill, English philosopher
> >
> >
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