Jobu, do you really have any clue or are you simply lashing out because
you're in another bad marriage?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE
arethebadguys.


> Pat wrote: "Right now, consider us doomed, because the average American
> doesn't have the BALLS to do the right thing."
>
> Interesting that killing millions of innocent women, children and
> non-violent Muslims with a nuclear bomb has now become the 'right thing'.
Oh
> yeah, that's really American.
>
> We have no right to be in Iraq now. We have no right to take "what rightly
> belongs to US" because it is not ours to take. According to that logic, we
> should be taking everything in Japan and Germany too.
>
> Saddam has been captured (although we're about to return him to Iraq for a
> 'trial'). That, according to Dubya, was the reason to invade the country
in
> the first place. So why are we still there? Supposedly to help establish a
> democracy. That will never work. Hell, we're completely in charge of the
> entire country and the government now and WE can't make it work. And there
> is talk that the US is planning to establish the largest concentration of
> troops on foreign soil in Iraq. That's just more fish in the barrel.
> Bringing Saddam to justice hasn't stopped the violence nor has it slowed
it
> down.
>
> I don't agree with nuking them all. I think we should withdraw all our
> troops and let the rough ends drag. Let Iraq figure out how to rule Iraq.
No
> where is it written that we should help them re-build their country. Hell
we
> shouldn't have eft it up to start with.
>
> We're already implementing sanctions against Syria. I guess that is the
> first step to invading them. I tend to think they might have a better and
> more equipped army than did Saddam. According to many, all of Saddam's WMD
> are buried there. We're not prepared to embark on another such journey
into
> a country that we no nothing about.
>
> Taking out Saddam may have been the right thing to do (if belief in the
WMD
> theory comes to light). Invading Iraq and now having to occupy the country
> wasn't the best way of doing it.
>
> My gawd, the US can't decide on friggin' gay marriages. So what gives us
the
> confidence to install a brand new gubmint in a country that we think needs
> one?
>
> This entire war was a mistake from the start. And with each day, the
extent
> of how bad a mistake it is grows.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On
> Behalf Of Pat Smoot
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:05 AM
> To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE
> arethebadguys.
>
> I've tried to stay out of this because my opinion really defies the PC's.
I
> agree with others that have said "Nuke the bastards".  Nuke all the
> bastards.  We are so damn concerned with violating someone's rights that
we
> have fucked up our own country so damned bad that we've made Pat Buchanan
> look like a liberal.  This is all bullshit !!  We need to do what is best
> for us non welfare recipient Americans for a change.  Take the gotdamn oil
&
> I don't give a rat's ass who it is that claims it.  Considering all the
> money that we contribute those bastards in the Middle East, the damn oil
> belongs to us.  WE HAVE ALREADY PAID MUCH MORE THAN MARKET VALUE FOR THE
> SHIT.  The bullshit that Jobu & others have espoused make me sick to my
> stomach.  Too many TRUE Americans have given their lives for this country
> for me to ever accept that we should coddle these Muthafuckers.  Bring
back
> Swartscoff & let him have total control over our military.  I was scared
to
> death that Al Gore would be elected & now we've got John Kerry to deal
with.
> If this sumbitch gets elected, we all might as well put a gun to our heads
&
> take the easy way out.  If we can ever have a president that isn't
concerned
> about all the political bullshit, no wait, Pat Buchanan tried to close our
> borders long before 9/11, but he didn't receive any support because the
> friggin liberals didn't support his anti-Mexican moat, we might stand a
> chance.  Right now, consider us doomed, because the average American
doesn't
> have the BALLS to do the right thing.  We are so damned concerned with our
> image as PEACE givers, takers right up the ass that we won't ever do what
> needs to be done.  Again,  "NUKE ALL THE BASTARDS" & let's take back our
> country & what rightly belongs to US because us taxpayers have certainly
> paid enough for it !!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:40 AM
> Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE
> arethebadguys.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >I'm not sold on that idea, Joe. The Middle Eastern precious "black
gold"
> > >that you guys were talking about is a commodity that many nations can't
> do
> > >without. The post that Joel made earlier is a scenario that could grow
> legs
> > >and lead us and Europe down an even uglier path. Besides that, the
Muslim
> > >extremist "Holy War" against America isn't going to just go away any
time
> > >soon. They're not going to change and we're not going to change. They
> hate
> > >us and we hate them for hating us. I see us fighting in the Middle East
> for
> > >a long long time. This is a perilous situation that will require some
> real
> > >wisdom from world leaders to get it under control and resolved. I'm
sorry
> > >but this has the feel of a powder keg that's about to blow sky
> > >high if we're
> > >not very careful.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> >
> > My thoughts are that we need to remove oil from the equation.
> >
> > We have all heard the urban legends for 20 or 30 years that we could
> extract
> > energy from water by seperating the highly combustible hydrogen from the
> > oxygen in the H2O molecule. This seems feasable doesn't it? I'm just not
> > sure that enough research is being done in this area and I really do
> wonder
> > if the oil lobby is strong enough to keep such research down or if this
is
> > indeed just a stupid rumor.
> >
> > Then there is this process of creating oil by speeding up the earth's
heat
> > and pressure process and turning waste into oil. A link is below:
> >
> > http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2003/Anything-Into-Oil1may03.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, these ideas could be pie in the sky BS, but I would sure like to
> be
> > able to approach this Muslim problem from a standpoint of not being
> > dependent on them for anything at all.
> >
> >
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