Phlip wrote:
> 
> Until then, anyone care to take on this logic? 

Actually I found the following statement about sums it up:

"The productivity in Java world is a cultural problem, not a technical 
one. That is this is not a Java fault, it's our fault, we, the Java 
developers, need to design very beautiful architectures..."

I have nothing against Java however I look at the example Recipe.java 
and it reminds me of one of the reasons I switched to using Rails in the 
first place...would I prefer a 50+ line model full of getters & setters 
or a succinct 2 line one in Rails?

>From my point of view you don't need to see all the cruft; all you 
really want to see & code is the business logic for your app.

Luke
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