On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Ricardo Sanchez <rsanchez.jayh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > RightScale is good solution but very expensive, a cheaper alternative > is using Scalr (scalr.net) > and they have both a free version (open source) as well as a paid > service (scalr.net being > the paid service, only $50/month + Amazon fees). Actually, the current charge for scalr.net is $99 per/month + Amazon charges. The $50 per/month was before August 16th. Also, Rightscale has a developer edition that can give you the opportunity to tryout their services. > Both RightScale and > Scalr are considered > cloud management tools and they work very well with Amazon Web > Services (EC2/S3/EBS...) > RightScale feature set is richer than Scalr. > Also, Scalr.net recently graduated from beta to production on August 1, 2009. Also, I wish that I would have known that one of the founders members, Alexey Kovalyov, resides in the Ukraine because I was there back in October 2008 and it would been a pleasure to meet him. > > You should keep in mind that Amazon is not the only kid in the game > (in the PaaS - platform > as a Service). There is also GoGrid and Rackspace (with their cloud > offering options). > http://www.gogrid.com/pricing/compare-gogrid-to-amazon-ec2.php > > Finally, there is a new breed of rails hosting solutions: Heroku and > EngineYard (Solo/Flex). Heroku has some very excellent hosting solutions from what I have heard from others and what appears on their site. Also, the hosting from what I hear is dead simple. > > They provide free trials of their services and a wide range of plans. > Heroku uses Amazon's servers > while Engine Yard uses Joyent. > > If you use Aptana's IDE for rails development, they also provide a > cloud hosting offering (AptanaCloud). > > So there are tons of options. The problem is that there is a wide > range of expertise required for > rails deployment. If you want to deal the least with server > configuration, I would strongly suggest > a service like Heroku (they even have github integration). I havent > used EngineYard's but their > Solo offering seems quite good for development/testing as well. The > moment you need production-ready > features then you have to start paying for more in both Heroku/ > EngineYard's offerings. > > - Ricardo Yes, I would agree with Ricardo in this regard but you want to limit your developing/testing to the local platform because some of these services have per/hour usage fees. The plan that I have with Rightscale has 15000 hours/per month for $500 which is great for deploying several applications per month. Thus, when I test a new application or updat an existing application, I tend to do the following: a) start the instance b) test the application c) stop the instance Note: The above doesn't affect the following application because I tend to create a staging instance for testing both new and updates to existing applications. Good luck, -Conrad > > On Aug 15, 8:01 pm, Conrad Taylor <conra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jeff Pritchard < > > > > > > > > > > > > rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net> wrote: > > > > > A search of this forum for "cloud" brought up a pretty anemic and > mostly > > > year or more old list of stuff. That was a bit of a surprise to me. > > > > > I'm interested in getting opinions on the easiest way to deploy a Rails > > > app to a well known (S3 or similar) "cloud" server. > > > > > It should be something with little or no "installation" or > > > "establishment" fees and no monthly fees...just the per/megabyte > traffic > > > fees. > > > > > Would be great if deployment was via capistrano, just like a VM or > > > dedicated server would be. > > > > > Has anyone made this cheap and easy yet? Or do you still have to roll > > > your own implementation using API's that were designed to be general in > > > nature and thus requiring significant development effort to get it > > > deployed? > > > > > thanks, > > > jp > > > -- > > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > > I am using Rightscale and I'm very happy with the Rails integration. > BTW, > > Rightscale is a front-end to Amazon Services (i.e. EC2, S3, Cloudfront, > and > > so on). Also, it costs a bit more for their service in addition to > Amazon > > charges > > but it was well worth it for our business. This will be common with the > > other > > front-ends to Amazon. > > > > Furthermore, I'm very pleased with the ability to have better control as > to > > what's > > going on with my server instances. Also, if you're publishing a lot of > > media assets > > and the site has a great deal of traffic, then I would recommend having > some > > CDN functionality within your sites' configuration. Hulu.com would be a > > very good > > example of the use of a CDN and Rails. > > > > When I was in Japan, I noticed that every Japanese site was extremely > fast > > being > > that my connection speed was 1 Giga bit per second. However, it was a > > sudden > > drop-off when accessing sites in the US that didn't have a local CDN. > Thus, > > you should > > use a CDN where it makes sense for creating the best user experience. > > > > Next, I would first focus on building solid Rails website architecture > > before thinking about > > scaling a site that doesn't exist by using the cloud. Once the site has > > been built, then > > you can make better decisions on how to properly scale your site. For > > examples, there are > > tools that can easily allow one to simulate N concurrent users across > > multiple servers > > > > Lastly, it doesn't matter which option you select you'll have to pay for > any > > high-traffic site > > that uses a lot of bandwidth. Thus, you may also want to take a look at > > Google App Engine. > > > > Good luck, > > > > -Conrad > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
