Hi Jeremy and everyone :) Found myself following this discussion and all the great informative answers supplied here. I am too in a learning process with my first app, very much a Newbie (in RoR and Web in general, though have a programming experience) and lately have been trying to figure out the deployment process, terms, and sort of 'what belongs where' :)
I wish to validate what I understood so far, it probably contains mistakes and wrong assumptions as I'm still learning , so please correct me when I'm wrong :) (@Jeremy: hope it's ok I joined the discussions you opened..) I'm currently developing on Windows.. started with using InstantRails and installed Git on Cygwin. This allowed me to experiment with some developing locally, begin with local version control and git-clone repositories for plugins/Gems. As I read some more, I realized I'd probably want to deploy my App on a Linux/Unix based server rather than a Windows one and that developing on windows and deploying on Linux (the way I initially started developing) might not be a good idea at all. Therefore I decided to install VM on my Windows machine.. have seen some posts lately on the subject.. currently I just installed VMWare Player (had to use version 2.5, my CPU wasn’t compatible with 3.1) but have thoughts of maybe trying VirtualRails instead (if it works on my machine) – I did see VirtualRails is using MintLinux-based Linux and was wondering whether that might cause future problems (as opposed to using Ubuntu for example)? After deciding and once I have that set (I expect future questions about setting it all up as well) – more questions.. these I'm afraid are going to reflect my newbie confusion.. but sincere informative and patient answers can help me "map" the information I have in my head, the information I'm reading and looking for and focus me, and thus will be very much appreciated.. I will say in advance I think some of the mistakes I'm about to describe may result from the fact English isn't my first language and so maybe I don't understand the different terms fully (such as deployment, hosting, etc.), that and being also new to Web development.. Ok – deployment questions: I couldn't understand for sure whether I need both a host and a place to deploy my App? And also was confused by the lines Sur wrote: "Go for some economical hosting providers, Linode or SpeedyRails etc. I don't have personal experience with Linode, but SR guys will setup everything for you ... including.. MySql, Phusion Passenger and automated deployment with Capistrano.... you will just need to give them your repository information (and money :). " I mean – it didn't make sense I'd use both Passenger and Capistrano (probably it does but I understood they're both used for deployment, thus the confusion..), unless Capistrano does both automated deployment but can also be used when using a different deployment service.. I feel and know I mix everything up here, but any light you can put for me on this subject will be very helpful.. Was also confused by the fact Phusion Passenger offers "Phusion Passenger for Nginx".. while I got the impression (obviously a wrong one, or not full) – I can deploy my app on Nginx as well? At least I heard people mentioning Nginx at the same sentence with Heroku and Passenger.. This brings me to another question: I also understood I can use heroku for deployment, which will require not more than one git push every once in a while (of course I know there's much more to it, but it was to explain me the ease of use).. in case I do use heroku (couldn't find any cons to using it I should be aware of, if someone can write a few from his/her experience, I'll be glad to learn..) – can I git push from my local repository or do I need first to push to a remote one, such as a public/private repository on GitHub? Moreover, if I'm the only one playing around with this app right now – what benefits can a GitHub repository give me comparing to using it locally? (this question is relevant, of course, only in case it's not a mandatory step for deployment, for example.. from Sur's quote it sounds it is a required step, at least if I used Capistrano..) More about Heroku – if I choose to use it, do I need a host as well? >From what I understood concerning Heroku – I git push my code there (which should be possible with local Git repository to my understanding), and I also need to point my DNS to Heroku, but then it means I only need a DNS provider and not a necessarily a host.. (?) I feel whenever I think I begin to understand bits of information, I'm faced with more information which doesn't fit the previous one.. think once I have the terms and process better mapped I can better learn and understand.. I'm also feeling this might be seen as a very clueless, mixed post.. To sum this long post up – I'm a NewB, and this is the reason I'm asking many questions here, as I'm teaching myself and don't have anybody to correct me or direct me when I do mistakes :) It does not mean I'm not doing my heavy reading to figure things out on my own, but doing lots of reading with no experienced person around to direct me led me to such confusion at the moment of writing.. Many thanks in advance to anyone patient enough to address some of my questions / direct me :) Nin. On Jun 30, 1:34 am, Jeremy <bathrobewarr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have to say that I am very pleased that I have received such great > responses! I kept expecting that I would get the cold shoulder but > instead I got real answers. I feel I have a solid direction and don't > feel like I'm blindly trying to figure this stuff out. So please > accept my sincerest thank you to all of you for helping me out! > > Bob, > I decided to go ahead and buy the book regardless if it's > outdated :-) I kinda figured the way deployment is done couldn't have > changed too much. > > Peter, > Thank you, I appreciate your contribution as well. Although, it was a > little over my head when you started talking "mercurial repositories" > but I'm sure I'll understand what that means sometime in the near > future. > > Sur, > This helps greatly! You have certainly gone above and beyond what I > was looking for, so thank you for all the time and effort you put into > this thread. I'm sure all this information will help other newbs as > well when they go looking for an answer. > > Thanks again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. 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