turkan wrote in post #961947:
>> In your Cucumber stories, of course!
>
> But even in Cucumber you have to implement that somehow, or?

Right.

> I don't know much about Cucumber as I do use Steak as mentioned, but I
> am pretty sure that there is a way to do that there, too.

I hadn't heard of Steak before.  A quick look at the rdoc makes me think 
it's basically an inferior version of Cucumber. :)  It looks to me like 
the author of Steak kind of missed the point that the English-like 
syntax of Cucumber is usually an advantage.
>
>> Controller and integration tests are needlessly painful. Skip them.
>> Use Cucumber.
>
> So you don't test your controllers at all?

I do test them, but only by means of my Cucumber stories.  There's no 
reason to write conventional tests for controllers.

> What do you mean by
> integration test are painful.

The integration testing interface provided by Test::Unit and RSpec is 
difficult to use and brittle.  You couldn't pay me enough to touch it.


> What are Cucumber tests then?

A non-painful way to cover the same ground as integration tests.

Best,
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http://www.marnen.org
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