turkan wrote in post #962094: > On Nov 17, 3:09am, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote: >> turkan wrote in post #962004: >> Then that tells me that their stories are too verbose. > > English language is verbose ;-)
You're right. I used the wrong word. That tells me that their stories are too *complex*. > >> No, it really isn't. ERb is not going to camouflage poorly designed >> views. Steak looks very much like that's its primary design goal: >> making it easier to write excessively intrusive stories. >> >> I would be very curious to see some sample Steak tests. > > Steak is a very very thin wrapper around RSpec ... so the test are > nearly pure Ruby/RSpec (mostly by directly accessing the Capybara > Api). > Example (not from me): > https://github.com/jaimeiniesta/demo_steak_capybara/blob/master/spec/acceptance/article_management_spec.rb Interesting. I like parts of it, but I think Steak is fundamentally misconceived. One of the big reasons to write Cucumber stories in natural language is that it stops you thinking like a programmer -- Cucumber stories are about user-facing functionality, not implementation. Steak, with its Ruby syntax, completely destroys that difference. Its Ruby DSL is clever, but there appears to be a great temptation to write RSpec controller specs with nicer syntax -- which is really not what user stories are about. Have you actually used Cucumber? > >> Doesn't Capybara do all that regardless? > > Nope, from the Capybara README.rdoc: "The visit method only takes a > single parameter, the request method is always GET." GET is all you need. If you want POST, you should be having the Capybara robot submit the form by clicking on the button. Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org mar...@marnen.org Sent from my iPhone -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
