Hi John;

While I can that 85 ft piggyback cars and the like would be a problem, AF 
passenger cars are 60ft long and the AM "Heavyweights" are 72 ft, which would 
allow for modern boxcars (including autoparts cars), centerbeam flats and other 
new car types.The hi-rail versions might perch a bit high over the trucks to 
clear, but they should work just as well as the AF passenger fleet.

Pieter Roos

John Picur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The biggest drawback to modern cars is 
they are long -- usually too long to successfully negotiate those tinplate 
curves, which are relatively sharper than even the 18-inch radius of HO train 
sets.  That means your market for these cars is immediately diminished by the 
majority of S gauge train-operating buyers.    My experience is that the 
collectors generally specialize in the AF collectables and will have no 
interest in a 60-foot anything that does not come in a Flyonel box.

Atlas O has found this out, too, with their longer cars.  Their current spring 
sale list is chock full of 3-rail modern cars, including the very prototypes 
you have mentioned.

>From my observations, the most successful productions satisfy the majority of 
>the S market by being in the 40-50 foot range.  This means  prototypes that 
>were common no later than the 1960s.   Cars go be longer if you offer 
>Talgo-style truck and coupler combinations but these require compromises that 
>seldom satisfy us SGRCs (Raleigh Designation), so defeat the purpose of the 
>product in the first place.

regards ... John Picur

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  ... The deep pockets of the 3 rail market allowed Atlas O to enter the 2 rail 
market by
  building cars for both segments. 

  ... If the flyer/ hirail S segment is really the most numerous part of S
  scale/gauge then maybe they will support some new equipment?  ... cylindrical 
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