The New England Central has been running 80 car Ethanol trains behind my house 
for a while now, including a couple of pretty quick stops with lots of 
squealing and banging but no sloshing sounds I can recall.

Of course, the sequence of "getting a flat" and then fixing it - do they carry 
the spare in the trunk? - shows how much prototype research was done on this 
sound sequence.

Many years ago John Allen showed how to build a boxcar which featured a ball 
bearing rolling on a vertically curved track. If the car was stopped too 
quickly in switching, the ball bearing rolled off the end of the track and 
dropped into an opening which completed a circuit and lighted a red light over 
one truck. The crew would have to summon the layout owner to deal with the 
"hotbox", and expose their rough handling of the train.

A similar setup with the wheel flat sound would be interesting, requiring the 
crew to run at reduced speed to the next place they could drop the car for a 
repair crew to attend to, listening to the flat wheel "bang" all the way...

Pieter E. Roos


--- On Fri, 3/4/11, JGG KahnSr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Do they say "Empty me!"?
> I'll have to check some references, such as Kaminski's ACF
> book, but my suspicion is that tank cars, like locomotive
> tenders,
> have baffles in them to prevent sudden movement and
> oscillation in transit which could easily derail the
> car.  I seem to recall
> reading that when SR&RL #23 first arrived in Maine
> without them the motion did derail the tender, so they cut a
> foot out
> of the center.
> 
> I assume most list members understand that ethanol is a
> major revenue stream for midwestern railroads (lots of them
> on
> the local DM&E) because it corrodes pipelines and so
> far, at least, truck transit is less cost-effective.
> 
> Jace Kahn
> 
> General Manager 
> Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> 



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